Hatten In Flames available for pre-order

[Gunner Scott]

Do not mean any disrespect but yause on consim world actually said that ASL sales help facilitate publishing non ASL games.

Huh?

Get a grip on reality.

 

[Misterhawk]

That's not what that means even slightly. I'm sure Brian can speak for himself, but when any company has successful product lines it allows them to take risks on products that are less guaranteed to make a return on investment. That's a lot different from having the successful product subsidize other products.

And given the amount of time and effort that goes into any ASL product, they (like just about every commercial wargame I've every seen) are underpriced to a significant degree.

 

[Peter Bartlett]

Hatten In Flames is almost ready to ship, along with Beyond Valor, Armies of Oblivion, and reprints of ASLSK1 and ASLSK2. Everything is coming back from the printers at once, and half the staff is off at the World Boardgaming Championships. When they return it will take them a while to collate games and get them ready to ship so please be patient. They'll be out soon.

 

[Ric of The LBC]

Hatten In Flames is almost ready to ship, along with Beyond Valor, Armies of Oblivion, and reprints of ASLSK1 and ASLSK2. Everything is coming back from the printers at once, and half the staff is off at the World Boardgaming Championships. When they return it will take them a while to collate games and get them ready to ship so please be patient. They'll be out soon.

 

[Perry]

Hatten in Flames is available today at our WBC booth.

 

[Zugführer]

These are good news.

Are there news about the availability of "Front Toward Enemy" too?

I hoped that HiF and FtE were in the same print run.

 

[Peter Bartlett]

FTE isn't ready yet, sorry. Being fairly new to the company I'm still not fully up to speed on all the production aspects of things. However I know that ASL products use a different counter material than MMP's other games which makes it difficult to combine ASL products with non-ASL products at the printers. That's why there's a big burst of ASL stuff coming on stream now.

 

[Ric of The LBC]

Hatten in Flames is available today at our WBC booth.

and other secret in-stock items.

 

[JRKrejsa]

and other secret in-stock items.

???

 

[Peter Bartlett]

Hatten in Flames will begin shipping soon. This is your LAST CALL to put in a pre-order:

http://www.multimanpublishing.com/tabid/59/ProductID/359/Default.aspx

 

[Perry]

These are good news.

Are there news about the availability of "Front Toward Enemy" too?

I hoped that HiF and FtE were in the same print run.

FTE coming soon-ish.

 

[JR Brackin]

Is it possible to get a list of the scenarios with breakdown of squads, vehicles.

 

[Perry]

Is it possible to get a list of the scenarios with breakdown of squads, vehicles.

All eight scenarios take place in Hatten in January 1945.
Each one has squads and vehicles on both sides.

 

[jrv]

All eight scenarios take place in Hatten in January 1945.
Each one has squads and vehicles on both sides.

Yes, but are they broken down?

JR

 

[FDBarbarian]

Yes, but are they broken down?

JR

Not yet. But a few have rusty rims.

 

[Bob Walters]

Yes, but are they broken down?

JR

That depends on how hot your dice are after the first turn.

 

[Andrew Rogers]

Speaking of 'broken down' .... from one of the American unit histories during the second day at Hatten (10 January 1945):

‘... when we started to try to clean up the town, (my unit) E Company and four Hellcats came in. Several of those (TD) boys really were wonderful, standing right there swapping punch for punch with Tiger tanks (ED note: actually Panthers). Their platoon leader, 2d Lt. Robert F. Jones, of Casper, Wyo., deserves the Silver Star. They found an abandoned M-10 tank destroyer there in good condition and decided to use it instead of one of their own ...'
Combat diary of Lt Goodwin (History of 79th Infantry Division, p108)

 

[apbills]

I've been away from ASL for awhile, but in ASL terms I'm not sure if that makes sense (without more context from the book). Both the M10 and the M18 have the same punch. Against panthers both are just as toasted. At least the Hellcat has extra mobility.

What am I missing?

 

[Sparafucil3]

I've been away from ASL for awhile, but in ASL terms I'm not sure if that makes sense (without more context from the book). Both the M10 and the M18 have the same punch. Against panthers both are just as toasted. At least the Hellcat has extra mobility.

What am I missing?

The standard load out on a real Hellcat, as I understand it, was mostly HVAP so the real life TD had more punch than it's ASL counterpart. According to Wiki (take it for what it's worth), the HVAP could penetrate a Panther frontally out to 1000 meters. -- jim

 

[jrv]

The standard load out on a real Hellcat, as I understand it, was mostly HVAP so the real life TD had more punch than it's ASL counterpart. According to Wiki (take it for what it's worth), the HVAP could penetrate a Panther frontally out to 1000 meters. -- jim

Wikipedia says it could penetrate the Panther turret frontally out to 1000 meters. US 76L APCR has a TK of 22, and at 13-18 the TK # drops by 1, so the TK is 21 vs. the Panther turret frontal 14 AF. At 19-24 APCR drops by 3, so TK 19 vs 14 AF: still possible but much less likely. The Panther hull is 18 AF, making a frontal hull kill not very likely. Score one for ASL.

JR