Contested Lands (1948 Arab Israeli) module

[Gunner Scott]

ya that scares me, barely anybody plays KWASL and now the same guys that brought use that chrome laden module are now probably going to do the same with Gen 48. Knowing these guys, we will see 10 pages of nationality rules on the Israelis.

"Contested Lands, a module on the 1948 Arab-Israeli conflict from some of the guys behind Forgotten War"
-- The Umpires' View, Journal 13

 

[hongkongwargamer]

ya that scares me, barely anybody plays KWASL and now the same guys that brought use that chrome laden module are now probably going to do the same with Gen 48. Knowing these guys, we will see 10 pages of nationality rules on the Israelis.

Apparently you don’t know these guys. Inconceivable also that you are equating an MMP production with CH.

 

[hongkongwargamer]

ya that scares me, barely anybody plays KWASL and now the same guys that brought use that chrome laden module are now probably going to do the same with Gen 48. Knowing these guys, we will see 10 pages of nationality rules on the Israelis.

I am not sure if you play ASL anymore.

But in case you don't, in KWASL the Nat Char for N Koreans is half a page. Chinese is 4.25 pages - and that's with a ton of illustrations.

As a comparison, IJA Nat Char is 4.5 pages.

PS Heck, Israeli Nat Char in Gen 48 is less than 2 pages.

 

[von Marwitz]

I am not sure if you play ASL anymore.

I am absolutely sure that he does.

von Marwitz

 

[hongkongwargamer]

I am absolutely sure that he does.

von Marwitz

Good. So not being able to count is no excuse. This is just pure incessant whinging.

 

[Futbol]

Should have called themselves “Multiple Hits”

or Near Miss

 

[Futbol]

I'm curious about any new vehicle counters in the module. What could we expect to see?

 

[PresterJohn]

I expect recycled Shermans and PzIVs and maybe some never been seen before British armoured cars from WW1.

 

[David Reinking]

From the little I have read, some “junkyard” Shermans, a pair of Cromwells and some odds and ends for the Israelies.

 

[william.stoppel]

Homemade armored cars for the Israelis. Recycled French armor for the Syrians/Lebanese

 

[lluis61]

I recall having seen a French Hotchkiss or Renault tank exposed next to the Degania Kibbutz.
Quite certainly a French tank used by Syrians, that the Israelis had defeated.

If you wait until 1967, you will see the Syrian PzKw IVs bought to France, Czechoslovakia and Spain...

 

[ParaMarine]

This is rocking good news. Hopefully an official Indochine will follow, but more time specific (1930’s to 1950’s) core modules and HASLs are welcome.

and like all the newer core modules since Haaka P. I am interested in using them to reimplement WW2 scenarios with units that the original mix did not account for.

 

[kynken]

I am really looking forward this and the Spanish civil war. I like to see real thought out rules and scenarios that have been thoroughly playtested. The current ASL rules covers these two time periods. Not on flimsy rules, unrealistic periods of time like Vietnam or Desert Storm like some other companies.

 

[ParaMarine]

I agree. From the 30’s to the 50’s is where it ought to stay. Tbh there’s not even any difference at all with a lot of weapons on ten years either side of the war as much as there is within the war.

 

[Barking Monkey]

I REALLY wish MMP wouldn't make this fringe stuff 'core'. I only bought KWASL b/c they made it core & I figured I'd need boards, counters, etc. from it to play WWII products going forward. As little interest as I had in playing Korean War I have far, far less interest in the Arab-Israeli 1948 conflict.

If they want to make a module for this confict great! I wish MMP the best of luck with it and hope it's a hit. But it feels a bit like extortion slapping 'core' on it and being made to cough up $100 bucks+ just for the fraction of components I'll need for non-1948 games.

 

[klasmalmstrom]

I REALLY wish MMP wouldn't make this fringe stuff 'core'. I only bought KWASL b/c they made it core & I figured I'd need boards, counters, etc. from it to play WWII products going forward. As little interest as I had in playing Korean War I have far, far less interest in the Arab-Israeli 1948 conflict.

If they want to make a module for this confict great! I wish MMP the best of luck with it and hope it's a hit. But it feels a bit like extortion slapping 'core' on it and being made to cough up $100 bucks+ just for the fraction of components I'll need for non-1948 games.

The only thing you should (in theory) need are the mapboards...if those are used in non-Korea/-1948 scenarios designed by someone. Those mapboards are sometimes available as individual purchases.

 

[sswann]

Indochina should only have the British (1945-46) and the French (1947-1954).
And the Viet's (of course)

 

[TopT]

Indochina should only have the British (1945-46) and the French (1947-1954).
And the Viet's (of course)

What would you think about early USMC (1965-1968)? It is mostly conventional with advanced Air assets, notably Helo.

 

[Jeffery]

I am really looking forward this and the Spanish civil war. I like to see real thought out rules and scenarios that have been thoroughly playtested. The current ASL rules covers these two time periods. Not on flimsy rules, unrealistic periods of time like Vietnam or Desert Storm like some other companies.

I would enormously look forward to a solid (and no political overtones) Spanish Civil War set. Incredibly varied terrain and unit types. Pre-WWII interests me much more than post-WWII.

 

[sswann]

TopT
I was there 1966 to 68.
I would not use ASL for those years without MAJOR rewrite of the rules . And I do mean MAJOR.