Repair SSR

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I call it tryin' to get cute. :(

Similar to the COI Armor Leader rule except all AL's could try and did have to be buttoned up('cept to fix the AAMG).
Perhaps there is no battle situation where you would find such an SSR tolerable/applicable. ;)
 

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Or.....you could all just shut up and let the man design his scenario the way he wants..........:devious:

I vote for no SSR........:smoke:
 

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Or.....you could all just shut up and let the man design his scenario the way he wants..........:devious:
I do find it a bit disconcerting to think that a good scenario designer could be cowed by a few posts on this forum.

But then a good scenario designer would just do it, instead of asking around to see if it was O.K. :p
 

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Believe me, I would love to add a repair roll type of SSR but there is really way too much rules fiddling involved to make such an SSR feasable.


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Or.....you could all just shut up and let the man design his scenario the way he wants..........
He asked for comments.

But then a good scenario designer would just do it, instead of asking around to see if it was O.K.
I think it was smart of him to ask for comments. feedback is essential in scenario design. That is what playtesting is for and there is nothing wrong with seeing how a new idea would float before implementing it.
 
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Perhaps there is no battle situation where you would find such an SSR tolerable/applicable. ;)
Sorry. I meant to separately address both of your quotes.

The cute comment was directed at the the Scenario designers who add SSR's for fluff.

My 2nd comment was supposed to address your 2nd comment.
I liked the COI Armor Leader rule. :)
 

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Believe me, I would love to add a repair roll type of SSR but there is really way too much rules fiddling involved to make such an SSR feasable.

Scott
If you want to add an optional rule for that, you could try letting a malfd gun "attempt" to fire normally by adding a repair die to the TH DR. If the repair die is a 1, the gun is repaired and that shot does take place. If the repair die is a 6 the gun is disabled. If the TH roll is a 12 while the gun is malfd, the gun is disabled. And if the TH DR is a 12 and the repair die is a 1 then no shot takes place and the gun remains malfd.

This method increases the chances that the gun will be disabled, for sure. But then again this would only be used in desperate situations so the return may be worth the potential cost.
 

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My favorite scenario I designed has to be "Showdown at Tug-Argon Pass" from the Annual. Crappy troops and crappy FT Italian tankettes.


Scott
One of the best Italian scenarios out there. A blast to play, as well as a real primer in elevation changes, (i.e. CX for 6 MF to go up out of the wadi, up hill an INTO another Wadi! WTF! I'm never gonna get to the top of this thing!)

The first time I played this was against Dave Lamb and we set the boards up backwards. Was still fun to play... and the second time around it seemed like brand new!

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An optional SSR? No such thing as far as I'm aware. If you want to put it in or leave it out, have the conviction to do either, not leave it to the player to decide.
Check out Raging Furnace.

An SSR that optionally allows the use of OBA and Air Support for both sides. If both players want to use OBA and Air Support, then both get it. Adds complexity so some players may not want it, but it also adds fuel to the furnace and just makes the scenario that much more ragin'!

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He asked for comments.



I think it was smart of him to ask for comments. feedback isesstential in scenario design. That is what playtestting is for and tthere is nothing wrong with seeing how a new idea would float before implementing it.
I do too Fred, I was just being facetious.....albeit a bad attempt. :bite:

I was on a roll lately so I figured why not?

:p
 

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I think it was smart of him to ask for comments. feedback is essential in scenario design.
Feedback is totally unnecessary in scenario design. I postulate that it harms it.

Feedback is absolutely required in playtesting.

I realize that Scott is just trying to make an interesting thread, and provoke a discussion of what SSRs should be considered as acceptable. He doesn't really need our help to design his scenarios, so I'm teasing him a bit. What are you...his lawyer?

I don't know of a single good scenario designer who goes around asking for help with their SSRs...or anything else for that matter. Scenario designing is generally a solitary enterprise. I doubt many scenarios are "designed by committee", and if they are they probably suck. :)
 
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Feedback is totally unnecessary in scenario design. I postulate that it harms it.

Feedback is absolutely required in playtesting.

I realize that Scott is just trying to make an interesting thread, and provoke a discussion of what SSRs should be considered as acceptable. He doesn't really need our help to design his scenarios, so I'm teasing him a bit. What are you...his lawyer?

I don't know of a single good scenario designer who goes around asking for help with their SSRs...or anything else for that matter. Scenario designing is generally a solitary enterprise. I doubt many scenarios are "designed by committee", and if they are they probably suck. :)
Actually I think your wrong here Glenn, I posted this thread to see if people understood what I was trying to convey in my Repair Roll SSR, sure the playtesters might know what I am asking just because they can communicate thier questions to me personally, but for this perticular SSR, I wanted to see how much the general ASL public understood about it.

Bottom line, if your going to include a very complicated SSR, I would strongly advise using this forum to make sure your fellow ASL'er understands it too, not just a small group of playtesters, this way you avoid a S#@#T storm of questions once your product is published.


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What are you...his lawyer?
The firm of Schwarz, Schwarz & Schwarz specializes in all aspects of ASL law; not just rules disputes, but we also advise in SSR construction, scenario design and slips and falls in your buddy's game room.

Your first consultation is free, for an appointment, call 1-900-ASL-SHYS.
 

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Actually I think your wrong here Glenn,

Bottom line, if your going to include a very complicated SSR, I would strongly advise using this forum to make sure your fellow ASL'er understands it too, not just a small group of playtesters, this way you avoid a S#@#T storm of questions once your product is published.
I'm just saying that scenario designing is an art.

Did Van Gogh ask for help picking his colors? Or cutting off his ear?

Does Paul McCartey ask the internet if it's O.K. to put a piano solo his song? Or to marry one-legged woman?

HECK NO!

Scott, are you an artist? Or are you a sniveling weasel begging for validation?!!!
 
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