Winter/Snow Map Boards

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For the cost of a full set of "winterized maps/ overlays", you could buy a good printer that prints at 11 x 17 and make your own map(s) using VASL. I know this has been said many times, but this is a very sensible work around.
But not as good quality, nowhere near good just adequate.
 

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But not as good quality, nowhere near good just adequate.
Who ever said that, or even implied that? That isn't even part of the should MMP produce these winterized maps conversation.

MMP making those maps and overlays is NEVER going to happen.
 

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I doubt it.

Too much money for not enough gain.

You would also need winterized overlays. And the winterization only addresses a single condition but no other terrain changes.

The best solution is, indeed, to create a VASL map with all the terrain alterations for a given scenario and print that on your home printer on thick paper.

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Fair point, yeah, I guess that would entail a whole new set of Overlays as you say,
thank goodness for VASL
 

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Actually, if you are going to call for Winterized versions of maps, why not the PTO versions of the same maps? A light jungle version, dense jungle version, deep snow version, etc....in a for a penny.....This would work well if you could bring the VASL boards to a large screen laid on a table so you could put the counters on the screen. A very large screen to accompany those board configs...
 
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But not as good quality, nowhere near good just adequate.
I prefer home printed VASL maps as better. Terrain modifications (all brush is woods)? Printed map has that. Bigger hexes? Printed map has that. Scenario only uses part(s) of board(s)? Printed map has that. Ten overlays? Printed map has that (with no tape / glue / stickem).

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Actually, if you are going to call for Winterized versions of maps, why not the PTO versions of the same maps? A light jungle version, dense jungle version, deep snow version, etc....in a for a penny.....This would work well if you could bring the VASL boards to a large screen laid on a table so you could put the counters on the screen. A very large screen to accompany those board configs...
I created a D&D board which was a frame holding a 28" tv as a monitor flat with a perspex cover for minis to go on. Could use that as a vasl board.
A second hand tv is cheap as chips.
 

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I created a D&D board which was a frame holding a 28" tv as a monitor flat with a perspex cover for minis to go on. Could use that as a vasl board.
A second hand tv is cheap as chips.
Fascinating idea. I just hate starring into a light bulb, though (I invented dark mode in 1989). I would be willing to have a 36 inch by 30 inch color non-backlit e-ink display as my ASL table. After the jet packs and hover cars, someone get right on that.

Zeke
 

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I created a D&D board which was a frame holding a 28" tv as a monitor flat with a perspex cover for minis to go on. Could use that as a vasl board.
A second hand tv is cheap as chips.
Nice, I was thinking something bigger or one day screens with no border you could combine together for easy travel. Just use VASL for the boards with real counters. You could even use the LOS checker on VASL for LOS disputes while playing regular ASL.
 

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Just had to get the "winterized terrain mapboards" snowball rolling downhill again, didn't you?
 

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If—and it is a big if— MMP were to do some winterized boards, it would make some sense to include in a WO Pack along the same lines of the 10z and 17z done a few years ago. Scenarios with Deep Snow would provide bang for the buck. Brush and Grain would disappear. Ponds could have some design to represent Ice.
 

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If—and it is a big if— MMP were to do some winterized boards, it would make some sense to include in a WO Pack along the same lines of the 10z and 17z done a few years ago. Scenarios with Deep Snow would provide bang for the buck. Brush and Grain would disappear. Ponds could have some design to represent Ice.
Just do them like the Fort a/b Doublewide boards-have ETO on one side/winter on the other.
 

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Yeah, VASL has its advantages, I prefer ftf for the most part but VASL works as well and is actually better for playtesting, being able to save games and go back to them. Saves a TON of table space that could be tied up for a while. Winterizing all those ETO Geo boards could cost a LOT of $.
$400
 

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MMP is digitizing their rules & journals etc. so why not all the geomorphic maps in digital form, too? We could then print them out at whatever size preferred in either their original or winterized colours. It would be very handy, especially for those who still don't own many of the originals yet; having MMPs nice looking board art at the press of a print button would help to reduce the storage issue of all the gear when it's not being used as well.
 

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If MMP made it possible to also arrange the overlays on the maps before printing, I'd buy two copies! <G>
 

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MMP is digitizing their rules & journals etc. so why not all the geomorphic maps in digital form, too? We could then print them out at whatever size preferred in either their original or winterized colours. It would be very handy, especially for those who still don't own many of the originals yet; having MMPs nice looking board art at the press of a print button would help to reduce the storage issue of all the gear when it's not being used as well.
If MMP made it possible to also arrange the overlays on the maps before printing, I'd buy two copies! <G>
All of this is already possible for many years by printing out VASL maps.

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