ibncalb
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I don't think this accurate. It looks like something changed inbetween the orders being taken and yesterday's announcement.
So fiasco is at best misleading.
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So fiasco is at best misleading.
DVexile
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If you ordered through RitterKrieg one of the options is for a full refund. Clearly this was unanticipated and so it was impossible for a disclaimer to be posted in advance. It appears Derek has gone out of his way to provide multiple options for anyone who placed an order prior to the map issue being discovered, which again includes a full refund if no longer interested in the product without maps. Hard to imagine doing any better than that.
I'm getting a group of buyers together to make a group order of maps from LFT direct.
LMK if you are in...each buyer will cut the Shipping costs from France, but will have to pay $7 or so dollars for shipping within the US...
Nothing yet as to whether Gamer's Armory or other shops are doing the same.
pwashington
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I think the point of the discussion above was that US retailers won't be able to sell them.
Still trying to order from the LFT website. Can't get an account set up email or password reset email response (checked my spam just in case).
criticalhit
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xavier emailed me after i ordered 2 sets of maps and overlays that shipping would begin in March.
criticalhit
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No. Ritter said that he will receive his orders in march.
Yuri0352
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Perhaps you missed the sentence in my post wherein I indicated that I'm not interested in finding someone to blame for this situation?
I'm just a customer who viewed a product on a US based distributor's website which contained images of maps with the product description. I placed an order for the product which included payment. 2 weeks later I receive an email from the distributor indicating that I will not be receiving this product in the form as it was advertised. I have yet to read anything anywhere from the manufacturer (LFT) which explains how this situation has occurred.
In all likelihood none of this is Derek Ritter's fault. I've always been highly satisfied with his customer service over the years and this situation has not deterred me from buying from him in the future.
Bottom line:
For reasons beyond my control, I will not be receiving a product which I was very excited to be using. There's nothing I can do about it except ask for my refund and just forget about the whole deal.
That doesn't mean I have to be happy about it.
This all happened in the last few days , Curt blew a gasket when it was first announced LFT have posted the maps and overlays are now available as a seperate purchase. .
rdw5150
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Agreed,,,,,, To me the decision to re-artwork existing maps was somewhat questionable at best (the fact I do not like the new artwork not withstanding). If it is indeed a copyright issue, it is not shocking and really should should not be that big of a surprise. When I realized the maps were re-dos (I thought they were new as with the DTO issue), I was thinking to myself, "Well this is odd".......
Personally I would rather have new PTO maps like LFT did with their DTO pack which I really like.
Derek has done his best in the situation (again IMHO).
I just do not get the huge deal. If someone wants the magazine and the scenarios, they can get it and use the official maps, it changes nothing of how the scenario will be played. I think that if LFT would have never even considered the re-artworked maps and put out a PTO themed issue, people would be excited for it. It seems pretty simple, if the maps were the selling point, don't get the issue, if they are not the selling point, get the mapless product (for those of us in the USA anyway) or just do not get the issue at all.
Should LFT expected this? Probably. But still, it does not seem, (to me) to be worth this big of a brouhaha..... Maybe in the past when I needed to have absolutely everything that came out for ASL (Exception CH) I would be upset, but those days are in my review mirror.
I mean no offence to anyone, this is all my opinion.
Peace
Roger
John Vinal
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I'm having the same problem. I even tried their 'contact' page, but got no reply.
Philippe D.
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I ordered the pack from the LFT side (because, well, I live in France), but I would happily have bought a reduced price no-map version.
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Hi All
In Australia I have always had a problem with the Le FT site and ordering so normally I just get it from Gamers Armoury (the joy of the postage price!!) - in this case I am getting it directly via Xavier since he is such a good guy!
You may be in the same "firewall" boat as me
Cheers
Rob
In Australia I have always had a problem with the Le FT site and ordering so normally I just get it from Gamers Armoury (the joy of the postage price!!) - in this case I am getting it directly via Xavier since he is such a good guy!
You may be in the same "firewall" boat as me
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I have never been able to order from their site, so I do it by email to X.
Philippe D.
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Actually, ordering from the LFT site always ends with emails from Xavier. I do have an account on their site, but whenever I order Xavier emails me with the details of how much I need to pay and asking for my address (which as not changed in the 8+ years I've been ordering stuff).
They're doing a great job overall producing ASL stuff, but automating the site is not exactly their strong point
(I have no idea how difficult it is to build a functional selling site, or how much the appropriate software would cost; quite possibly, way more than the whole LFT business can bring)
They're doing a great job overall producing ASL stuff, but automating the site is not exactly their strong point
(I have no idea how difficult it is to build a functional selling site, or how much the appropriate software would cost; quite possibly, way more than the whole LFT business can bring)
John Vinal
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How does one do that? Can you give us his email address?
Toby Pilling
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I'm looking forward to seeing my article on defending in scenarios featuring the Japanese or PTO in print. I started it ages ago and it was meant to be part of 'The Manual', but I didn't have time to finish it. I hope players find it useful.
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Contact him through the ASL Face book pages
Sparafucil3
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Where is this going to be printed Toby? -- jim
Toby Pilling
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It's in this issue, Jim - LFT16. Hence me posting in this thread!