dojimaster
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Why do players use the A78 inserts instead of just using A75 for all counters?
Raaco Inserts
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STAVKA
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See link with pictures, when the A78 insert is used instead of the A75. https://forum.aslsweden.com/index.php?/topic/3482-asl-raaco-3rd-edition/
dojimaster
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Hmmm.... I see. My OCD make me itchy just looking at that!
I'm inclined to go all A75 and use the dividers from Ritter Krieg ( https://ritterkrieg.com/product/a75d4-5-x-subdividers-for-raaco-a75/ ) or 3D print the trays.
STAVKA
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After seeing your links, it is clearly an overdesign, looks nice but , my experience tells me (played about 7300 scenarios) that it is not worth it.
Aw
aweful waste of space doing it that way
von Marwitz
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If you only want to optimize space, then you'd to the 'upright' storage for vehicles with paper tabs to separate them.
But if you like to pick vehicles by the 'visual' method - which I prefer as well - then his storage approach is much nicer.
That said, the extra dividers for A75s add up in cost.
If I started with a storage system now (or when I can bring myself to update it because of the new counters in Hollow Legions and Twilight of the Reich), then I would directly switch to 3D-printed inserts that are more 'space-effective' than A75s and A78 while still enabling a 'visual' storage approach.
That said, I would not reduce the number of RAACO Handy Boxes (currently three for a roughly double OoB). The extra space gained by the 3D-printed inserts I would use to have some empty buffer space to safeguard against future 'storage system overflow'.
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fenyan
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I agree with von Marwitz and would go with the visual method with the latest-3D-printed inserts. The upright method (with labels/dividers) does pack everything in, at one point I was able to get all the core modules into four Assorters.
I you want to buy some A75s I do have a lot to sell and I'd give you a good price.
I you want to buy some A75s I do have a lot to sell and I'd give you a good price.
von Marwitz
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If you entertain the thought of setting up a RAACO storage solution, this document might be of interest to you.
It is a couple of years old and as such does not consider the possibilities of 3D-printing yet.
Furthermore, the resources referenced for Labels etc. do not take into account the new counters from "Forgotten War", "Hollow Legions 3rd edition", and "Twilight of the Reich".
Yet, I believe it can still be helpful of providing some thought on how to tackle your personal "optimal" solution.
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Thats a smart Idea! A friend of mine will do some samples. Will see how the feeling and handling is and let you guys know!
Sparafucil3
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I want to bring people's attention to these: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6287513
I spoke with Boyce (the creator) for about a half hour about these and looked at examples of his work. These are outstanding. They stack and are held together by magnets. I really like his work here and think others might like it too. -- jim
I spoke with Boyce (the creator) for about a half hour about these and looked at examples of his work. These are outstanding. They stack and are held together by magnets. I really like his work here and think others might like it too. -- jim
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I just made my first test tray of the full ASL trays last week and they work great. The link above is to the SK trays. The full ASL trays are here: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6389423
The downside is I had just made nice new labels for a bunch of my Planos.
dojimaster
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Those of you who are 3D printing, what printer do you have and is it overkill for something like this?
Is there a basic printer you’d suggest?
Is there a basic printer you’d suggest?
Sparafucil3
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It depends on your budget and how much you're willing to fiddle around to get it to work. You can buy budget printers for ~$200 but that will likely require you to fiddle around to make it work. It isn't hard but it can be very frustrating. If you want one that "just works" you're going to spend a lot more money out of the gate for a Prusa or Bambu. You're not limited to just printing trays. I use mine to also print terrain for my family D&D game, right down to magnetic dungeon tiles a-la Dwarven Forge. You can print minis too but a resin printer is a better option for minis. If you just want trays, I would try to figure out how many you might need and see what a printing service would cost you first. They will do them quicker and easier than you can. -- jim
Philippe D.
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I have a relatively high-end Prusa printer (Mk3S - the brand is high-end, the model is not anymore compared to their newer printed), which is very likely overkill for something like this. Prusa printers are well known to be very reliable and well-designed, but they are not trying to be cheaper than the competition.
The trays are indeed very nice, I'll definitely give them a try. My only concern is that, as standalone boxes, they may not be as sturdy as Raaco (plus, using these would mean I would have to retire my stacks of Raaco boxes).
von Marwitz
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Curse on you! Now you have irrevocably planted this thought into our minds...
All right - now we only need some NAVY guys or Air Force flyboys. Don't they have some metal-3D printers for making spare parts?
I know - you could be kicked out the service in disgrace. But on the balance - you would be the first one having titanium 3D printed storage trays and would walk out of oblivion into ASL folklore forever...
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Curse on you! Now you have irrevocably planted this thought into our minds...
All right - now we only need some NAVY guys or Air Force flyboys. Don't they have some metal-3D printers for making spare parts?
I know - you could be kicked out the service in disgrace. But on the balance - you would be the first one having titanium 3D printed storage trays and would walk out of oblivion into ASL folklore forever...
von Marwitz
Or you could just go to a service that does it instead..........
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Vinnie
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I got an voxelabs aquila x2 for christmas. Worked pretty much straight out ofbthe box despite me blowing a capacitor!
Philippe D.
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Hmm, didn't check before. Another concern is that the "full-sized" trays won't print on my printer, they have too large a footprint. Just started a trial print of one of the "half-sized" models.