My friend Don1 told me of watching a video about the differences between the old Red Barricades and the new Red Barricades. According to Don 1, the author of the video asserts that there has been a reduction in the maximum range of a fire lane. He mentioned 2/5/7 hexes (LMG/MMG/HMG) as the range restriction instead of the maximum normal range of the MGs. I called Don2, who told me that the second edition has not been changed in this regard. Is this a special rule for the new Red Barricades? Or is this now standard? Or is it an error of Don1? Tim
Fire Lane. Has there been a change?
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No change that I am aware of? Who made the video?
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Ne'er heard anything like it.
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I do not know. Second hand information. Don1 speculated that it was due to the downward direction of a MG's shells as they traveled some distance, and that it was accurate. It could be that it is a house rule of the person who did the video. Sorry, I was simply asking to confirm it. The video displayed the differences between the old and new editions of Red Barricades. Tim
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Tim, the range of a FL is the normal range of the MG.
So variable depending the model.
Are you still without a rulebook and asking questions on the base of personal ideas and global impressions?
In case you have access to the rules, the reference is :
I would recommend it, as it will be freely updated.
So variable depending the model.
Are you still without a rulebook and asking questions on the base of personal ideas and global impressions?
In case you have access to the rules, the reference is :
You can get a pdf version of the rulebook for about $60 on wargamevault.
I would recommend it, as it will be freely updated.
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Well, I think the muzzle velocity of an MG42 was 820m/sec. I'll leave it up so someone else to calculate, how far a bullet would drop vertically after travelling two hexes, i.e. 80m or in 1/10 of a second. And I will not begin to think about how far it could travel if the MG would not be fired exactly horizontally...
That said you may lay a FL shorter than is maximum allowed distance. If you want, you can limit the length of the FL of a German LMG to less than 8 hexes.
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Calibrating the drop of shot is what sighting in a weapon is all about.....at least half of it. No fire arm that is aimed at a target anywhere beyond point blank range is fired "horizontally".Well, I think the muzzle velocity of an MG42 was 820m/sec. I'll leave it up so someone else to calculate, how far a bullet would drop vertically after travelling two hexes, i.e. 80m or in 1/10 of a second. And I will not begin to think about how far it could travel if the MG would not be fired exactly horizontally...
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Don1 could not remember the author of the video but related that he was about 60 years old, white haired, and thin. Yes, my rule book is still buried in my attic somewhere. I did know the rule about fire lanes, but considered since it was in a video that it could be a special rule of some sort. Tim
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If fired exactly horizontally and neglecting air resistance, the bullet traveling 820m/s will fall 0.098m, or about 10cm, 4". Over eight hexes, 0.4 seconds, it would fall 1.57m, or a little more than 5'.
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Are you sure about your calculations? A five foot drop over that short a distance, @ 1050 feet, seems like a lot. Once again though I was a squid so no real world experience with that.
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If shot as the honorable Mr' Repetti suggests, a bullet which is dropped at the same height as the muzzel will hit the earth at the same time as a bullet projected horizontally on a horizontal plane. See the below video:
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Okay, pretend I'm dense, does the bullet drop 5 feet over 8 hexes?
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If this is correct, and I have no reason to doubt it, then to hit a target 5 feet high at 8 hexes you have to aim 10 feet above the ground. Had no idea as I never shot at anywhere near that distance. Interesting.
Was hanging window boxes for Debbie earlier so really didn't have time to think about it.
Was hanging window boxes for Debbie earlier so really didn't have time to think about it.
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That is a theoretical maximum calculated with no effects of air drag. Reality is almost certainly worse. By how much I am not prepared or equipped to say.
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