Comparison of Gamesquad Combat Mission Forum: Jan-Mar 2011 to Jan-Mar 2014

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The periods Jan-Mar of 2011 and Jan-Mar 2014 invite comparison. In 2011, the CM community was awaiting the release of a new highly anticipated game, namely the return of the game engine to the Second World War after many long years. A public AAR had just been posted by battlefront. In Jan 2014, the CM community finds itself in the same position. CM is scheduled to return to the Eastern Front after many long years. A public AAR had just been concluded.

A comparison of the state of the community on gamesquad shows some interesting contrasts.

2014

The following is a study of all threads either started, or carried over into the period 1 Jan to present, only counting posts actually made in this period.

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          initial     total                          
          poster      posts   
thread 1 Elvis	        49		
thread 2 NUTTERNAME	 6	        		
thread 3 NUTTERNAME	30			 			
thread 4 NUTTERNAME	 5		 								
thread 5 NUTTERNAME	10					
thread 6 NUTTERNAME	 5		 	
thread 7 NUTTERNAME	43														
thread 8 junk2drive	33		
        Grand Total    181
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?116409-Combat-Mission-Red-Thunder-announced
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?116867-AP-Rounds-Forest-for-the-Trees
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?116740-Seeing-what-a-unit-can-see
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?116801-DAR-Blabbermouth-(NOT-FOR-ELVIS-or-BILH)
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?116421-You-Know-I-don-t-Know-Variable-Rates-of-Fire
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?116541-CMBN-v3-0-announced
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?116091-The-Perfect-World
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?115757-EF-Video

Most prolific poster: NUTTERNAME 50.8% of total posts
2nd most prolific: Mobius 10.6% of total posts
3rd most prolific poster: Elvis 8.8% of total posts
Remaining 11 posters (78% of total number of posters) account for just 29.8% of total posts

Total number of posters who have posted at least once in the period January 1 to March 20 2014: 14
Total number of active threads in this period: 8

Active posters (posts):
NUTTERNAME(92)
dalem (5)
Elvis(16)
junk2drive(1)
Fleischer(2)
hirrleto(5)
kbearski(2)
M. Dorosh(1)
mobius(17)
redwolf(12)
wbrp(3)
slm(7)
Rule303(1)
undercovergeek(1)


2011

The following is a study of all threads either started, or carried over into the period 1 Jan to 31 Mar 2011, only counting posts actually made in this period.

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          initial     total                          
          poster      posts  
thread 1  Sgt_Kelly       52    
thread 2  n/a             56    
thread 3  n/a              6    
thread 4  n/a             27    
thread 5  Michael Dorosh   6     
thread 6  Mad Russian     87     
thread 7  Michael Dorosh  13    
thread 8  Geordie        145	
thread 9  Redwolf        135	
thread 10 junk2drive	  21	
thread 11 junk2drive      21	
thread 12 n/a	          22	
thread 13 Mad Russian	   4	
thread 14 Michael Dorosh   5	
thread 15 Geordie	   1	
thread 16 n/a		
thread 17 Michael Dorosh  20	
thread 18 KG_Jag          14	
thread 19 Tanker          16	
thread 20 n/a	           5	
Thread 21 BigAlMoho       91	
thread 22 thewood          7	
thread 23 n/a             35	
thread 24 Michael Dorosh   9	
thread 25 hirr Leto        8	
thread 26 kawaiku         10	
thread 27 Thomm           18	
thread 28 Caractacus      14	
thread 29 kawaiku         16	
thread 30 BigAlMoho       11	
thread 31 dalem            6	
thread 32 Michael Dorosh  68	
thread 33 Michael Dorosh  71	
thread 34 Michael Dorosh  12	
thread 35 thewood         14	
thread 36 junk2drive      81	
thread 37 hirr Leto        1	
thread 38 junk2drive	  15	
thread 39 n/a              2	
thread 40 Michael Dorosh  23	
thread 41 n/a             23	
thread 42 n/a             43	
Grand Total:            1234
http://forums.gamesquad.com/forumdisplay.php?5-Combat-Mission/page7&pp=20&sort=lastpost&order=desc&daysprune=-1
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?97333-CM-N-forum-is-finally-up-and-new-title-announced-Combat-Mission-Battle-for-Normandy/page14
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?97507-quot-Action-Spots-quot-CMx1-vs-CMx2/page2
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?92931-Official-CMN-Release-Date-Betting-Pool/page15
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?99079-Monitor-choices-for-CM-BN
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?99348-If-I-Own-CMBB-Why-Should-I-Buy-CMBN
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?98891-Double-or-nothing-time-Elvis
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?99144-New-QB-DAR-started-at-BF
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?99020-CMBN-pre-order-tentative-release-date
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?99356-Movie
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?99309-QB-AAR-rockpapershotgun
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?97256-76mm-Shermans-in-CM-N
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?99164-Red-on-Red-In-Libya-or-Blue-on-Red-or-Something
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?99173-St-Anne-s-Chapelle-AI
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?99165-Off-Topic-_-World-Of-Tanks
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?91903-Silence
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?98741-Hard-drive-backup-explain-to-me-how-this-works
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?98913-BF-Confirmation-of-Family-Tree-of-Second-Family-of-CM-x-2-WW-II-Games
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?98821-Re-crewing-abandoned-vehicles
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?44084-Why-was-Crete-Lost
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?98406-You-first-No-You-first
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?98700-CMSF-Ripped-from-the-headlines
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?97480-Squad-Level-Games-A-Bit-Off-Topic
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?98476-Theater-of-War-(TOW)
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?98531-All-your-base-meme-10-years-old
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?98176-Bay-Area-quot-Preview-quot
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?98500-Interview-with-Steve-on-RockPaperShotgun
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?98400-The-Germans-are-on-the-move!
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?97879-Book-Suggestions
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?98277-Programming-Environment
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?98311-Found-Some-BB-Maps-I-Did-A-While-Ago
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?97751-More-features-than-ever
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?97746-Steve-s-post-on-Infantry
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?97903-Looking-for-a-copy-of-Doug-Beman-s-scenario-STRUGGLE-FOR-SINGLING-(CM-BO)
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?97881-UI-in-wargame
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?97581-AAR-with-Pics
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?97885-BFC-AAR-between-Jon-and-Elvis
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?97531-Gamesquad-news
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?97504-German-CAS-in-Normandy
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?97640-Maps-from-CMX1-to-CMX2
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?97481-Wego
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?89895-Will-CM-N-finally-kill-off-CMX1

Total posters
Most prolific poster: M. Dorosh – 13.9%
Second most prolific: thewood – 9.0%
Third most prolific: dalem – 8.9%
The remainder of the posters made up 92% of the total number of posters, and 68.2% of the posts.

Total number of posters who have posted at least once in the period January 1 to March 20 2014: 40
Total number of active threads in this period: 42

Active posters (posts):


BigAlMoho(6)
Bil H(1)
British Tommy(49)
Caractacus (21)
dalem(110)
Elefant(6)
Elvis(16)
Geordie(48)
hirrleto(26)
Jeph(18)
junk2drive(60)
jwb3(4)
kawaiku(13)
KenRich(1)
KG_JAg(27)
Mad Russian(89)
MeatEtr(1)
M. Dorosh(172)
mobius(16)
Palantir(17)
Patrocles(27)
Pdqport(2)
peterk1(13)
redwolf(107)
Rule_303(16)
Sand Bar Bill(1)
Sgt_Kelly(22)
shell-shocked(2)
slm(11)
sparty(3)
Tanker(50)
thewood(112)
Thomm(23)
villeke(1)
vulture(5)
wengart(7)
Scott Tortorice(3)
slm(6)
Quellist(10)
Zonso(1)

Comparisons:

2011 Active Threads: 42
2014 Active Threads: 8
2011 Active Posters: 40
2014 Active Posters: 14
2011 Most Prolific: 14% of posts on forum
2014 Most Prolific: 50% of posts on forum

Note also that in 2014, there isn't a single thread that the most prolific poster hasn't been active in. The level of participation in every thread but one has been to contribute 45% or more of the posts in that thread. The solitary exception was a thread in which he contributed only 36% of the posts. He also started 75% of the threads initiated in this period. Compare to over a dozen unique thread starters in 2011. The most prolific thread starter accounted for 21% of new threads begun.
 

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I observe a general trend that tactical wargaming digs itself deeper and deeper into its own hole.

Community websites that either close or have some other problem are a big part of that.

Don wanted to fork off the old WarfareHQ into its own website again but honestly, not much point, not much left.

The Eastern Front CMx2 game will launch with many of the same problems that plagued CMx2 forever. The only high class problem bumped off since 2011 is the MGs. That is very disappointing. And apart from fixes, we still don't have feature parity with 2002's CMBB, which is now 12 years old.
 

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Does all this hard work by Dorosh, straining his mathematical abilities, have anything to do with the 9,699 views his 'Merry Christmas and Announcement' post (which not a single person participated in) got?
 

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The top three number of views. POS, Dorosh and POS. I see a trend...

WW2 Photos
Started by Poor Old Spike, 13 Dec 11 15:31
12345...57
Replies: 563
Views: 752,919


Announcement and Merry Christmas
Started by Michael Dorosh, 23 Dec 13 07:44
Replies: 0
Views: 9,699
Michael Dorosh
23 Dec 13, 07:44 Go to last post

CMBN Tactics
Started by Poor Old Spike, 21 Feb 12 10:05
12345...7
Replies: 66
Views: 5,686
A.B. Ushavov
18 Dec 13, 13:54 Go to last post
 

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Real life issues and a general waning for war gaming have precluded me from visiting and taking part in any gaming sites for a while now.

i think it's slowly dying and BF will slowly die with it.

CM just isn't popular enough to drive forward this niche. It's mainly a bunch of old guys playing a game designed by a bunch of old guys now.

oh and no surprise, Dorosh still hates BF after all these years..........

anywat, at, nice to see a few of you are still going strong.
 

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The best I can offer is hope to get fired and make an open source game. Didn't happen so far.
 

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oh and no surprise, Dorosh still hates BF after all these years..........
I wasn't going to say anything, but since you put it all into focus so well for us - unenthusiastic, biased moderators, and baseless posts like this in which the most useful contributors were attacked without foundation, are what drove away the best part of this forum. Some of them are named above.

It's mainly a bunch of old guys playing a game designed by a bunch of old guys now.
It's really sad that you basically trashed this forum through your inability to moderate it, then just dismiss those who participated as not being worthy of being here anyway. Because they were - in your phrase - just "a bunch of old guys."

CM just isn't popular enough
I think the community would disagree with you...

anywat, at, nice to see a few of you are still going strong.
And you missed the entire point. Because of your 'moderation' the forum was taken over - like you were warned it would be - by one abusive poster who now uses it as his private bulletin board. That isn't "going strong" by any definition. But after Don, the site owner, announced that he runs the site at a financial loss, I'm not sure that anyone expected anything to change. You do get what you pay for.

Real life issues and a general waning for war gaming have precluded me from visiting and taking part in any gaming sites for a while now.
Just what you want in a moderator. So why wouldn't you do the right thing and hand the reins over to someone with the time and ability to administer the board properly?
 

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How are the Lulu sales going Dorosh? Would you be so kind as to share those statistics with the "community"?

If the information were retrievable, it would be interesting to have Dorosh sit around for hours and tabulate the number of guests and members online vs. most time periods for this website's Combat Mission page. Dorosh seems to focus on posters in his 'analysis'. But the fact is that this page gets about two to three dozen guests and very few 'members' as a historical fact. The number of occasions where the number of guests jumped up to the 80-100 range was during the entertaining Dorosh melt-downs. Myself and others spread the word through emails to come check out the GS-Dorosh spectacles.

The traffic at BF has followed a similar trend with periods of little to no traffic. It is quite dead waiting for the EF release IMO.

Of course, antics like this statistical analysis are the reason that Dorosh is mocked in the wargaming world. Posts like the one above to Geordie are the reson that people think so little of him as a person. Little is as Little does...
 

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It's really sad that you basically trashed this forum through your inability to moderate it, then just dismiss those who participated as not being worthy of being here anyway. Because they were - in your phrase - just "a bunch of old guys."
He was referring to the wargame community at large. Not this forum in particular.



I think the community would disagree with you...
You are correct.
 

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initial total
poster posts
thread 5 Michael Dorosh 6
thread 7 Michael Dorosh 13
thread 14 Michael Dorosh 5
thread 17 Michael Dorosh 20
thread 24 Michael Dorosh 9
thread 32 Michael Dorosh 68
thread 33 Michael Dorosh 71
thread 34 Michael Dorosh 12
thread 40 Michael Dorosh 23
Grand Total: 227

initial total
poster posts

thread 2 NUTTERNAME 6
thread 3 NUTTERNAME 30
thread 4 NUTTERNAME 5
thread 5 NUTTERNAME 10
thread 6 NUTTERNAME 5
thread 7 NUTTERNAME 43

Grand Total 99
 

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I can't help but find it interesting that in the face of the reality that Lewis was allowed to ruin this particular forum, the initial response is about the health of the wargaming industry in general.

-dale
 

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I can't help but find it interesting that in the face of the reality that Lewis was allowed to ruin this particular forum, the initial response is about the health of the wargaming industry in general.

-dale
Don't you play with old men and dice? How is their health anyway? The old men, that is?

Edit: After rereading dale's post, it struck me that he is starting to sound like an old man himself. Hopefully, he sees some kids playing on his lawn and chases them away. Be good for his circulation and such.
 
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There are now...Views: 10,523...at Dorosh's Merry Christmas thread. I swear it isn't me. Supposedly, all the wargamers are doing it. Can POS lose his title?
 

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I can't help but find it interesting that in the face of the reality that Lewis was allowed to ruin this particular forum, the initial response is about the health of the wargaming industry in general.

-dale

That was the point of his research and his post? Seriously? I assumed it was about "The Death of Battlefront" or somefink like that

He went through all that to say "NUTTERNAME pissed in my sandbox"?

Oh my..
 

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I can't help but find it interesting that in the face of the reality that Lewis was allowed to ruin this particular forum, the initial response is about the health of the wargaming industry in general.

-dale
One is a symptom of the other. The forums aren't actively "run" anymore, so some personalities get too much weight by default.
 

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That was the point of his research and his post? Seriously? I assumed it was about "The Death of Battlefront" or somefink like that

He went through all that to say "NUTTERNAME pissed in my sandbox"?

Oh my..
I heard he had some issues over at Groghead also.
 

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I can't help but find it interesting that in the face of the reality that Lewis was allowed to ruin this particular forum, the initial response is about the health of the wargaming industry in general.
-dale
(I guess I have to post to hold up my 10%.)

I generally post on questions of wargaming in general as I don't play CM. I also don't play WoT but I post on a couple of the blogs because that is where wargamers are these days and questions on WWII in general come up.

Any ways why doesn't someone break down the BF CM2 forums by users and see how many of the same posters are doing the posting and compare it to something?
 

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Any ways why doesn't someone break down the BF CM2 forums by users and see how many of the same posters are doing the posting and compare it to something?
I believe Dorosh did this in the past. But it turned out that his investigations just uncovered that the declining number of posts were actually due to his being banned and all his sock puppets and aliases getting snuffed....

How can you be 10%? I mean, you are constantly here...but 10%??
 

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That was the point of his research and his post? Seriously? I assumed it was about "The Death of Battlefront" or somefink like that

He went through all that to say "NUTTERNAME pissed in my sandbox"?

Oh my..
Oh Elvis, keep being you.

-dale
 

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(I guess I have to post to hold up my 10%.)

I generally post on questions of wargaming in general as I don't play CM. I also don't play WoT but I post on a couple of the blogs because that is where wargamers are these days and questions on WWII in general come up.

Any ways why doesn't someone break down the BF CM2 forums by users and see how many of the same posters are doing the posting and compare it to something?
MD's done it before. He might do it again.

-dale
 
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