Cougar_DK
Former POA2 Thread Keeper
DonStone and I is on turn 26 or 27 - don't remember. So this game is soon over too. :OHNO:Bogdan said:
CMBO- "3MIF" Round 2
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Bogdan
Member
Battle lenght
Of course, I cannot comment your game or some tactics at the moment, but this very aspect of the scenario is important. Attacker must plan with that parameter, as time often plays on the defender's side :devious:
'Curious to see how many german leaders will win, and how...
The old dilemma... ...how many turns to give to this scenario ?Mephisto said:
Of course, I cannot comment your game or some tactics at the moment, but this very aspect of the scenario is important. Attacker must plan with that parameter, as time often plays on the defender's side :devious:
'Curious to see how many german leaders will win, and how...
airBiscuit
Assistant CM Moderator
Indeed, in a game of this size, it seems that the Brits have to be concerned with where to maintain their front line and maintain their ammo count as defensive positions meet major German thrusts. The Germans have to be concerned with the pacing of their advance, which balances tactical caution with concentration of push to keep a steady approach on the objectives. Another difficult exercise in this game is the decisions of what to do behind the front lines, where to send reinforcements and how much.
I can't wait to get to the AAR's on these games. They've been very brutal and action has been occurring all over a good half of the map.
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I can't wait to get to the AAR's on these games. They've been very brutal and action has been occurring all over a good half of the map.
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GunnerC
Member
Interesting - as Allied defender I went for a more strung out and sporadic approach to the very front line - a bit like Napoleonic skirmishers. That on the basis that if he sent armour forwards I had a chance of knocking some out with PIAT's, and if he relied on infantry I could cause some casualties, and wear down his ammo counts. I suspect the German infantry has more trouble with ammo in this scenario.airBiscuit said:
First shots were exchanged on turn 2 ! :rifle:
Palantir
Member #86
Bogdan- I wonder if these words from the briefings are ringing true for the players or were heeded... :devil:
:skull: :skull:
AX- "The bocage & wooded countryside is perfect for defense; it will be nasty work clearing this out so expect very high casualties once again." :scream:
AL- "We anticipate high casualties this time but we must hold at all costs."
Then again, maybe they were noted and "adjustments" made. :thumup:
:skull: :skull:
AX- "The bocage & wooded countryside is perfect for defense; it will be nasty work clearing this out so expect very high casualties once again." :scream:
AL- "We anticipate high casualties this time but we must hold at all costs."
Then again, maybe they were noted and "adjustments" made. :thumup:
Bogdan
Member
Yes, I think so...Palantir said:
By the way, attacker and defender have to expect casualties as the axis side must take and hold some objectives. Which cannot be accomplished without losses.
Gary Owen
Member
Yeah, the outcome of the armor knife-fight in the last turn certainly sealed your victory. You had the advantage through-out though, and I only managed to briefly and remotely threaten it when I surprised your half-tracks.
GunnerC
Member
Go for your gun !
Looks like a wild west shoot out with simultaneous fire ... :ar15:
Sadly I got the poor end of it. I'd have accepted both being destroyed.
Are late armour battles a feature of this scenario ? This is turn 28.
Looks like a wild west shoot out with simultaneous fire ... :ar15:
Sadly I got the poor end of it.
I'd have accepted both being destroyed.Are late armour battles a feature of this scenario ? This is turn 28.
Latest result just in!
Another draw. Gonzo as the attacker quickly sewed up the triangle and held the two small flags from then on, the large VF was contested in savage fighting and was neutral at the end of the game. Escoville town itself was the scene of much bloody fighting, however I managed with the help of the late reinforcements to keep one flag neutral and to hold the other one. The remainder of the action was at Ferme de Pre Baron which I held until the very last turn when a determined late charge by one of Gonzo's two remaining PzIVs turned the flag to neutral. But for that I may have scraped a minor victory, however I feel a draw was an accurate reflection of the game overall. I will supply Kerry & Bogdan with some screen shots in a couple of days when time permits.
Another draw. Gonzo as the attacker quickly sewed up the triangle and held the two small flags from then on, the large VF was contested in savage fighting and was neutral at the end of the game. Escoville town itself was the scene of much bloody fighting, however I managed with the help of the late reinforcements to keep one flag neutral and to hold the other one. The remainder of the action was at Ferme de Pre Baron which I held until the very last turn when a determined late charge by one of Gonzo's two remaining PzIVs turned the flag to neutral. But for that I may have scraped a minor victory, however I feel a draw was an accurate reflection of the game overall. I will supply Kerry & Bogdan with some screen shots in a couple of days when time permits.
Palantir
Member #86
Latest results:
4 Draws- all favoring the Allies.
1 Axis Minor.
4 Draws- all favoring the Allies.
1 Axis Minor.
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GunnerC
Member
Pod complete
Another draw, this time myself and Gonzo. This too marginally favoured the Allies (50-45). I think he had much more left than me at the end (even if no Shermans ), just about all my infantry was out of ammo. His defence was very strong.
I managed to bog down and immobilise one Stug and one Panzer IV, which didn't particularly help. Anyone else had similar problems ?
Another draw, this time myself and Gonzo. This too marginally favoured the Allies (50-45). I think he had much more left than me at the end (even if no Shermans
), just about all my infantry was out of ammo. His defence was very strong.I managed to bog down and immobilise one Stug and one Panzer IV, which didn't particularly help. Anyone else had similar problems ?
Palantir
Member #86
Similar "Problems?"
Are there particular concerns about this scenario?
Are there particular concerns about this scenario?
GunnerC
Member
No concerns at all - just stupidity on behalf of the Axis player (me) :argh: . I was wondering who else fell into the same trap.Palantir said:
Cougar_DK
Former POA2 Thread Keeper
ME :argh:GunnerC said:
Mephisto
Member
I've got one immobilized. :nervous:
Palantir
Member #86
It's strange how vehicles can get bogged down even in "dry" weather in one scenario but then none will in a "wet" scenario.
The algorithm that controls "bogging" seems to be very moody.
The algorithm that controls "bogging" seems to be very moody.
Arakis
Recruit
It isn't dry. Mine says 'damp'.
I managed to bog down my remaining StuG, but a turn later the crew came out and put some boards and gravel under the tracks, and managed to get it moving again.
Sticking to roads now
I managed to bog down my remaining StuG, but a turn later the crew came out and put some boards and gravel under the tracks, and managed to get it moving again.
Sticking to roads now
Palantir
Member #86
I meant in general! :laugh: :nuts:Arakis said:It isn't dry. Mine says 'damp'.
Are you sure they didn't rock it back & forth or just spin the treads REALLY FAST!!! :laugh:Arakis said:
I've just seen several Ferdinands bogdown in dry conditions, unfortunately they are still pointing right at me. :scream:
Bogdan
Member
Damp terrain
In fact, the real battle begun at the end of a long peroid of rain, this early morning of June 1944...Arakis said: