- Jan 9, 2010
- Reaction score
- Ottawa GMT -5/-4
C2.2401 GUN DUELS:
1. Apart from the +3/+4 DRM for being Thrown (and possibly, unqualified/captured use and CX), what would the (Firer-based) Gun Duel DRM for a DEFENDER Thrown DC comprise?Vs a non-concealed, non-Aerial DEFENDER'S declared Defensive First Fire attack on it, a vehicle may attempt to Bounding First Fire (D3.3) its MA (/other-FP, including Passenger FP/SW) at that DEFENDER first, provided the vehicle need not change CA, is not conducting an OVR (D7.1), its total Gun Duel DRM (i.e., its total Firer-Based [5.] and Acquisition [6.5] TH DRM for its potential shot) is < that of the DEFENDER, and the DEFENDER'S attack is not Reaction Fire (D7.2). Neither the +1 DRM for a Gyrostabilizer nor the doubling of the lower dr for other ordnance in TH Case C4 (5.35) is included in the Gun Duel DRM calculation. The order of fire for non-ordnance/SW is determined as if it were ordnance [EXC: TH Case A can apply to non-ordnance/SW only if mounted-on/aboard a vehicle that is changing CA; all such non-turret-mounted fire is considered NT for purposes of TH Case C, and A.5 applies to any type of FG]. If the ATTACKER's and DEFENDER'S total Gun Duel DRM are equal, the lower Final TH (or non-ordnance IFT) DR fires first—and voids the opponent's return shot by eliminating, breaking, stunning or shocking it. If those two Final DR are equal, both shots are resolved simultaneously. Any CA change the DEFENDER requires in order to shoot (5.11) is made beforethe ATTACKER'S shot if the DEFENDER'S total Gun Duel DRM is ≤ the ATTACKER's; otherwise its CA changes (if still able to) after the ATTACKER's shot. After the initial Gun Duel has been fully resolved, and if otherwise able and allowed to, that DEFENDER may announce another attack vs that ATTACKER who in turn may declare another Gun Duel; this time the printed ROF of one firing weapon on each side may be included as a negative DRM in that side's Gun Duel DRM calculation. Only the ATTACKER may declare a Gun Duel [EXC: not if the DEFENDER has done so as per 5.33].
a. Would it include any (additional) "DC Position DRM" (C7.346)?
b. Would it include a +3 DRM if Thrown from a vehicle (I'm thinking yes)?
2. What would the total Gun Duel DRM be for a FT fired by a DEFENDER Passenger in a ht be if:
a. the ht is Stopped? (I'm thinking +3)
b. the ht is in Motion? (I'm thinking +5)
3. What would the total Gun Duel DRM be for a Stopped (unpinned CE) DEFENDER SPW 251/sMG ht that:
a. wanted to fire its AAMG at a Moving vehicle? (I'm thinking +3)
b. wanted to pivot its VCA one hexspine in order to engage a Moving vehicle with its VCA-only CMG? (I'm thinking +6)
4. A concealed HS with a PSK declares a DFF vs a Moving vehicle. May the Moving vehicle declare BFF and thus a Gun Duel? (I'm thinking no based on the C2.2401 EX, but would like to confirm.)
5. A Moving vehicle has entered a brush hex, expending 2 MP in the process. A Gun declared a DFF attack on the first MP expenditure. The vehicle responded by declaring a BFF attack and a Gun Duel. The Gun Duel was resolved with no effect on either party. Both parties retain ROF. According to C2.2401, the Gun could declare another DFF attack (presumably on the second MP expenditure), and the vehicle could respond by declaring another Gun Duel. However, according to C2.24, a "vehicular weapon using Bounding First Fire (D3.3) must expend at least one MP between its shots."
a. Is the vehicle allowed to declared a Gun Duel in this case, or must it expend another MP first? IOW, does the italicized text "if otherwise able and allowed to" apply only to the DEFENDER?
b. If the vehicle in the above example cannot declare a BFF attack and therefore a Gun Duel, under what circumstances would "back-to-back" Gun Duels occur?
c. Would the answer to the first question be any different if a different DEFENDER declared a DFF attack after the initial Gun Duel was resolved?
Any assistance in answering any of these questions in much appreciated.