ASL World Olympic Games

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My son plays Fortnight and World of Tanks online..always thought this would be a cool way to produce the best players of ASL. Each country has their own regional, then national ASL tournaments then a team of the top 5 best players for each nation is created. A location is set and the ASL Olympics is tournament starts with a series of round robin events according to previous ratings. Would be a cool way to see how the bast players would rate against each other. The scenarios are selected by the opponents prior to their game start.
 

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Not really, Olympic means:

  • flag issues
  • not invited some countries
  • boycott
  • fake amateur player
  • cheating
  • chauvinism gold medal war
  • ...
/Seconded.

The Olympics today bring out the worst in sports:
  • it is all about money
  • rotten corruption to the innermost core
  • it destroyed the original thought of that competition
I would be thoroughly disgusted and turned away if anything near the Olympics would be envisioned for the (competitive) ASL community.

🤮🤧🤮

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Agree with posts above re Olympics brings out the worst in sports.

I know for a fact that the top 3 UK players don’t even play VASL.
 

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Agree with posts above re Olympics brings out the worst in sports.

I know for a fact that the top 3 UK players don’t even play VASL.
While I would consider something like "ASL-Olympics" replacing the ASL tournament scene as it is a nightmare, I do not see a connection to VASL.

IMHO, the positive effects of VASL for the ASL community cannot be overstated.

For me, personally, VASL was a relevation and the enabler that allowed me to make contact with the greater community in order to actually play the game on a regular basis. All of a sudden, it was easy to find numerous opponents and mentors. The overhead to drive to an opponent's place for a FtF game (which would have been considerable and subject to many more time-constraints from both sides) were eliminated to nil. Having gained access to many different opponents, partly of great experience, also meant that the learning curve went up steeply - nothing to have a veteran explain the ropes to you or to observe different tactics and styles of play. If this weren't enough, VASL comes "free" with no strings attached - no fees, no subscriptions, no commercials, no "business models".

VASL is an outstanding effort by the community (well, mostly of the code savvy ones among us...) supported by ideas, suggestions, and input of a wide range of people for the community of ASL-players.

I do understand, that some players don't use or like VASL, often because they don't like to spend their past time in front of a computer screen after having spent their working hours there already. And, granted, personal face-to-face interaction can never really be matched by anything electronic. But besides this, I find that VASL/VASSAL has been the single most important and positive factor for the global ASL community in the past decades.

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Forget about calling it the Olympics, why not the ASL World Championship instead?

Not about countries, this is all about the players, on-line, no matter where they are.

Figure out how big a field you want and how many rounds and the last person standing wins (My $ is on Steve Pleva).

MMP and other third party companies can provide prizes.

Easy enough, now who wants to run it? The newsletter takes up too much of my time...
 

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While I would consider something like "ASL-Olympics" replacing the ASL tournament scene as it is a nightmare, I do not see a connection to VASL.


von Marwitz
I totally agree about VASL but am more interested on your take of the tournament scene being a nightmare. I can't offer an opinion as I have not attended a tournament for a long time. I am just interested in your viewpoint. Thanks!
 

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I don't think there is a single ASL tournament scene. Go to any meet and there will be those for whom winnning is important and those who are there to play. People who want to socialise over a game and those who just want to socialise. I'm not certain a tournament devoted to "winning" would be that popular.
Realistically, there are very few players who would be in the running for the top prize. Do you encourage people to enter simply to make up numbers? Do you "waste" the time of the top players with them having to progress through rounds against players they "should" beat?
 

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I'd rather go to a tourney, where someone goes "He pulled a sweet move on Turn 9 to put his units in position for
his exit plan." than "Did you see what THAT @#$*&^%%$ did to me on Turn 9?".
 

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I'd rather go to a tourney, where someone goes "He pulled a sweet move on Turn 9 to put his units in position for
his exit plan." than "Did you see what THAT @#$*&^%%$ did to me on Turn 9?".
How many times have we said that we have been outplayed and congratulate the other player😀. Normally we say that we’ve been diced to death and the dice gods have not been with me😅
 

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I totally agree about VASL but am more interested on your take of the tournament scene being a nightmare. I can't offer an opinion as I have not attended a tournament for a long time. I am just interested in your viewpoint. Thanks!
I think that you misunderstood me - or maybe I did not express myself correctly.

I am fine with the current ASL tournament scene.
I.e. no money involved, no commercialization, no "business models", no unhealthy sort of competition (the latter maybe with a few exceptions). Instead, what we have is mostly a gang of nerds getting together enjoying the game and the company in a general atmosphere of cameraderie while having a beer or two.

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I think that you misunderstood me - or maybe I did not express myself correctly.

I am fine with the current ASL tournament scene.
I.e. no money involved, no commercialization, no "business models", no unhealthy sort of competition (the latter maybe with a few exceptions). Instead, what we have is mostly a gang of nerds getting together enjoying the game and the company in a general atmosphere of cameraderie while having a beer or two.

von Marwitz
Thanks!
 

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When I think of Olympics, which is rarely if ever, what comes to mind is a wide variety of competitions with many champions. An ASL Oympics should have several different competions, not just one. Think of the ASLOk Mini Tournaments only Maxi instead. For example the PTO Maxi or the Night Maxi. ( sounds like a feminine hygiene product).

This would have to be online or a new ftf tournament. Online is probably the only way to do this unless the ftf Olympics featured only one category. The 2024 ASL Olympics, Treadheads Category example.

The problem with trying to determine an ASL Champion is how do you get the best to compete? Again such an event would have to be online and as pointed out upthread some players don't want to sit in front of a monitor to play.

I understand wanting to determine a champion but as far as SL/ASL I was always much more concerned with getting people together to play or encourage them to start to play. Still am. I think an online ASL Olympics as described above would be pretty cool. I would love to see it happen. ASL Jazzfest too but that's a different project out of my hands. Get on it Jazz!!😉
 

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The idea of an ASL Oympics is a total waste of time. The current tournament system going on now; is the best way for determing the best players in the world. No need to make it any more simpler. ASL is not really a 'sport' where we need to determine a 'winner'. There is no 'season' either. Tournaments happen all year long, players go to the ones they want to and play they way they want to (i.e. as competitive as they feel like). If you go to enough tourney's you got a feel for who is good and then those players figure out who is best. And then it changes at the next tournny.
 
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