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If you kill your acquired target, can you leave the acquisition counter in the heat to be used against another unit that might pass through?
 

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I believe you can retain it. C6.5 lists all the reasons that can cause acquisition loss and target destroyed is not one of them and it refers to 6.51 that says the acquisition can stay in an empty hex if the target moves out of the LOS and you can't track it.

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If you kill your acquired target, can you leave the acquisition counter in the heat to be used against another unit that might pass through?
You can.

C6.5:
"... The target remains acquired until the Gun/manning-Infantry that placed it leaves its present Location [EXC: Gyrostabilizer; 6.55]—or the Gun changes its CA without firing on its already-acquired target during the current phase—or the Gun (or its CMG unless in a separate turret) attacks (including in CC, or Interdicts) a different target—or the Gun malfunctions or fires SMOKE (6.56), canister or IFE—or its crew/manning-Infantry are eliminated or not in Good Order, or they no longer possess it, or they fire Inherent FP/SW or use Interdiction, or they (un)limber/dm it—or the target is no longer in their LOS after entering a new Location/vertex-(see 6.15) (although in this case the last in-LOS Location occupied by the target will remain acquired; 6.51)."

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Wouldn't leaving the acq counter essentially be bore sighting?
 

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First it depends on what the Acq is - it can be -1 or -2. Many players will target a crucial hex to possibly deter enemy units from entering. Note, that every time you target a hex you risk breakdown of the gun, that alone could deter you from doing that especially if you have a B10, B11, etc.

Bore sighting is done at the beginning of game under certain circumstances with no risk to the weapon.
 

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C6.521 Specifically allows targeting of a hex with Area Type Target that has no known targets in it and thus gain acquisition on the hex. I have done this with the puny mortars trying to deter movement through an area.

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Wouldn't leaving the acq counter essentially be bore sighting?
It might have the same DRM as bore sighting, and it might behave in the same way in some respects, but in others it does not. You can't fire at another Location then fire back at the original Location and get the DRM again (without taking multiple shots), so it is not the same as bore sighting. It is a left-over acquisition.

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I tend to agree, but COWTRA suggests otherwise.
Actually the rules tell you when you must remove acquisition, not when you must/can retain it. If you shoot at a target you gain acquisition. If the target is destroyed, nothing tells you to remove acquisition for that reason. The acquisition remains until some reason causes it to go away.

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Actually the rules tell you when you must remove acquisition, not when you must/can retain it. If you shoot at a target you gain acquisition. If the target is destroyed, nothing tells you to remove acquisition for that reason. The acquisition remains until some reason causes it to go away.

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"C6.44 A MG/IFE non-ordnance attack [EXC: all forms of Residual FP; A8.2, A9.22] vs a unit in the firing weapon's Bore Sighted Location may deduct two from its IFT DR unless using Spraying Fire or taking a Snap Shot [EXC: vs Infantry, only such an attack conducted as Defensive First Fire (A8.1) qualifies for this -2 DRM]. The -2 Bore Sighting DRM may be used by a FG making such an attack only if all elements of that FG have Bore Sighted that same Location. See also E1.71."

One thing which is often overlooked is that vs. Infantry you can use the Bore Sighting modifier for MG/IFE only during Defensive First Fire.

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Actually the rules tell you when you must remove acquisition, not when you must/can retain it. If you shoot at a target you gain acquisition. If the target is destroyed, nothing tells you to remove acquisition for that reason. The acquisition remains until some reason causes it to go away.

JR
Good point. I agree.
 
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