CWB Questions

['Ol Fezziwig]

several CWB questions:

1. If an extended line retreats, does the parent unit/other extensions rout at the same time?

2. A division under a divisional goal; the division general is wounded/killed, what happens?

3. Using defensive orders, would a natural "2" still cause a leader under No Order status to become a Loose Cannon or does the +1 DRM eliminate this possibility?

We just started the Second Manassas scenario and our Battle of Brawners Farm ended quite differently then did historically. Taliaferros' division blew back Hatchs' division with support from Ewell mainly due to, of all units onboard, the "Iron" brigade routing, the wounding of Hatch and the subsequent Emergency Retreat. Losses have been light, with more straggling on the Union side (all stragglers recovered later that night for both sides) due to events. We stopped at 8/29, 1 AM after the Union 1-3Va and the onboard cavalry of 2-3Va were forced to retire offboard due to the command confusion rule for this scenario.
Lots of fun!

 

[sgtono]

I believe you got an answer on the mailing list, but I will post here so others can see.

At 11:48 AM 6/29/2005, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I'm Richie's Union opponent in the 2nd Battle of Bull Run
>(Scenario 5 in August Fury II). We're fairly new at
>CWBS. We're also ASL players, which will be pretty
>obvious once you read this email.
>
>"1. If an extended line retreats, does the parent unit/other
>extensions rout at the same time?"
>
>This came up when I had a parent unit and extended line
>targeted during the Rebel Fire Combat. Richie fired at
>the parent unit first, which got a DG Back 2 result. Does
>the extended line immediately retreat to stay adjacent,
>i.e. before receiving enemy fire? Or does the extender
>retreat at the end of the Combat Phase (17.0)? This was
>important because the extender was exposing a flank shot,
>but was in the middle of a forest. We retreated the
>extender immediately, which worsened its morale state by
>1, but made it immune to fire since there was no longer
>any LOS. And saved it from a flank shot.


You did it correctly. The extender has to follow the parent unit and
the
morale results are applied immediately.


>"2. A division under a divisional goal; the division general
>is wounded/killed, what happens?"
>
>This came up when Hatch was wounded while under a divisional
>goal. He was bolted to the ground (10.5d) and treated as
>a Corps HQ. The Corps HQ rules (10.1h) says it cannot be
>moved except by new orders, initiative, or an emergency
>retreat. But the division commander loss rules (25.4c)
>says the replacement commander "appears stacked with another
>unit of the same division (i.e., not the same hex)." So
>does the wounding trigger an emergency retreat because
>the "HQ" is moving? Or would this be a "free" relocation
>of the HQ? Didn't actually matter much in play, as I
>failed my defense stoppage roll in the next turn.

In this case, you could do either of

1) follow the rules precisely, i.e., the replacement appears with a
divisional unit and is bolted in place there; or
2) place the replacement leader where Hatch was and continue with the
leader bolted down there.




>"3. Using defensive orders, would a natural "2" still cause a
>leader under No Order status to become a Lose Cannon or does
>the +1 DRM eliminate this possibility?"
>
>This came up when the above defense stoppage left Hatch in
>"no orders" status. We're playing with the defensive orders
>rules, so Hatch's replacement was looking for initiative.
>The rules state "A force with no orders and with no units
>currently engaged in any combat has...1 added to any
>initiative dice rolls made by leaders in that force."
>Since a loose cannon occurs on a 2, but with 1 added to
>the dice roll a 2 is no longer possible, does this mean
>a loose cannon result is no longer possible? Or is an
>"original 2" still a loose cannon?


An original 2 is still a loose cannon.

Stephen

 

['Ol Fezziwig]

Okay, been awhile but I have another question:

A Corps has 3 divisions; one of which is on a divisional goal doing... whatever. During the CAS phase, does the Corps make the roll as a Corps of 2 divisions or as a 3 division Corps?

 

[Keith Todd]

10.3e

.....Any Corps Attack Stoppage by the parent corps has no effect on divisions acting on divisional goals...

and the division rolls for CAS as a Corps with one division, so I would rule as a Corps with two divisions.

Nothing official but my two cents,

Keith

 

['Ol Fezziwig]

That's what I thought-just wanted to make sure!
thanks!