Slaughter At Ponyri HASL

[Honza]

I don't know - a lot of places I frequent (not as much on GS) posters get yelled at for posting a new thread instead of using the existing thread on the topic. I think one could argue that Necro Posting an old on topic thread is generally preferred on Al Gore's Internet vs. starting up a new topic for the 17th time on an old subject.

Etiquette at GS seems a little different though, so perhaps one could argue in this forum a new thread is preferred. 'Course one would have to have been here long enough to grasp that nuance.

Personally I think people just like to whine, so he'd likely have been yelled at either way... :devious:

Very astute. You have explained it well.

 

[footsteps]

I don't know - a lot of places I frequent (not as much on GS) posters get yelled at for posting a new thread instead of using the existing thread on the topic. I think one could argue that Necro Posting an old on topic thread is generally preferred on Al Gore's Internet vs. starting up a new topic for the 17th time on an old subject.

Etiquette at GS seems a little different though, so perhaps one could argue in this forum a new thread is preferred. 'Course one would have to have been here long enough to grasp that nuance.

Personally I think people just like to whine, so he'd likely have been yelled at either way... :devious:

It depends on the thread. If the thread is fairly recent (last post 1 or 2 months ago), maybe adding to it is fine. But 1 or 2 years?

In the current situations, I would suggest that something like this was done in a new thread:

"I was reading some old threads on the Ponyri HASL, but nothing more has been said in over a year. Any further news or thoughts on this project?"

That could generate new and interesting conversations.

 

[Honza]

Well I love starting new threads, but as Bret said in some places it is not allowed if a thread exists on the subject already. However in my experience here at GS starting a new thread on a two year old subject always generates new replies.

 

[Spencer Armstrong]

I don't know - a lot of places I frequent (not as much on GS) posters get yelled at for posting a new thread instead of using the existing thread on the topic. I think one could argue that Necro Posting an old on topic thread is generally preferred on Al Gore's Internet vs. starting up a new topic for the 17th time on an old subject.

Etiquette at GS seems a little different though, so perhaps one could argue in this forum a new thread is preferred. 'Course one would have to have been here long enough to grasp that nuance.

Personally I think people just like to whine, so he'd likely have been yelled at either way... :devious:

That last statement is certainly true. :laugh:

And the rest synchs with my experience if there's an active thread on a subject. One that's two+ years old doesn't fit that description. <shrug>

S

 

[volgaG68]

I really don't find the necro-posts very annoying. If it is a subject that piques my interest I'll backtrack to the newest post that dug it up, read the new ones that have appeared in the last day or so, and may or may not reply. I certainly don't find it necessary to re-read the previous 34 pages to get the gist of why the gravedigger opened it back up. The few that I do like to see reappear are very generalized ones such as, "What is your favorite scenario?", "What brought you to ASL?", etc. You know, the ones that almost feel like they should be 'Sticky Threads'. On the flipside, I find it hilarious when someone reopens one of these by quoting someone who apparently no longer even posts on the forum. Like they actually expect that particular forumite to respond! To each their own, if it doesn't interest me I don't look at it.

 

[Spencer Armstrong]

On the flipside, I find it hilarious when someone reopens one of these by quoting someone who apparently no longer even posts on the forum.

Yes. This is the single greatest reason necro-posting is bad.

S

 

[Corporal Kindel]

Ok, so this module has been in playtest since at least 2007, how many years before it realistically goes on pre-order/sees print: 2, 3, years or more?

 

[p3love]

Ok, so this module has been in playtest since at least 2007, how many years before it realistically goes on pre-order/sees print: 2, 3, years or more?

well, if its ok by everyone then maybe we could discuss it then. We could put a MORATORIUM notice at the bottom of the post to stop some people whining. I mean, I just want everyone to be happy

 

[p3love]

It's not really a proposal. It's basic netiquette. Even if there's a case for your POV (and there may be), it's simply not how it's done...to the point it's somewhat rude.

S

Don't you think that you're behaving like a bigoted self important supercilious prima dona? Just go back to being a nice guy again, deal?

 

[wrongway149]

Ok, so this module has been in playtest since at least 2007, how many years before it realistically goes on pre-order/sees print: 2, 3, years or more?

Longer than that, actually.

 

[RobZagnut]

There's one person responsible for forcing old and dead topics upon us, many of which are 6 or 7 years old. I wish he would knock it off. He's found another way to be rude to the rest of us. Reading old topics is fine, but replying to guys who aren't around any more is ridiculous. It's not just a couple, it's a lot and it's not stopping.

He has been asked on numerous occasions to stop, but he feels he's above having to act in a respectful manner to the rest of us. I hope another ban is in his future, so he learns some manners, again.

He's on my ignore list, but I'm sure his reply will be his typical snide, disrespectful, 'who cares about anyone but me' rude response.

 

[p3love]

there is an awful lot of chest thumping, jaw jutting, peacock strutting, bigoted, self important, supercilious, prima dona pious behaviour going on here. Some people seem to love the idea of 'ganging up' on someone out of overzealous, misguided, 'loyalty'. Some people even seem to lose themselves in their own diatribe; such is their envy and insecurity.
Why dont you ask yourselves why you behave in that manner, what really are your motives, what is your malfunction as they say? I wasnt aware of any 6 or 7 year olds resurrecting threads that foster the interests of many members of the forum, some quite reknown and some not, but still. Even the very people who rile against me are on these threads, taking part. It seems to me that certain forum members (and it seems to be the same few) are only happy when they are in control. It really is a shame.

What is more of a shame is that there are people that wish to throw their weight around like spoiled children (6 or 7 years old?) and want me to be banned! Only because I dont follow the whims of a forum member, who isnt even a moderator (and one who didnt even ask the questions I politely put to him) and do as they say.

Regardless of what I write these small minded people have already made up their minds and no doubt will keep the nagging, ganging up mode of operation until they achieve their aim of having their own way.

 

[DPetros]

Being the author of this HASL, I'll try to clarify..

Slaughter at Ponyri is still a real HASL 'in the works' (albeit slow works). I've sidelined myself over the past 4 years from ASL for personal reasons. SaP is in good hands however, but those hands have been busy with other projects.

My personal thoughts remain unchanged - that SaP has the makings of being the most interesting HASL (excepting RB perhaps) we'll see. We don't have anything like it now, and that includes any 3rd party or MMP release. It's old-school Russian vs. German, combined arms slug-it-out on Russian terrain - but on a scale we've not seen. Kursk hasn't yet been captured by ASL - but this can do it. It is a great shame that it hasn't seen the light of day, and I'll take a good measure of responsibility for that.

All I can hope is that it does take flight someday. That will require the attention and determination of others who I hope will see what I see in this game and move it up the que. Good luck.

 

[p3love]

Being the author of this HASL, I'll try to clarify..

Slaughter at Ponyri is still a real HASL 'in the works' (albeit slow works). I've sidelined myself over the past 4 years from ASL for personal reasons. SaP is in good hands however, but those hands have been busy with other projects.

My personal thoughts remain unchanged - that SaP has the makings of being the most interesting HASL (excepting RB perhaps) we'll see. We don't have anything like it now, and that includes any 3rd party or MMP release. It's old-school Russian vs. German, combined arms slug-it-out on Russian terrain - but on a scale we've not seen. Kursk hasn't yet been captured by ASL - but this can do it. It is a great shame that it hasn't seen the light of day, and I'll take a good measure of responsibility for that.

All I can hope is that it does take flight someday. That will require the attention and determination of others who I hope will see what I see in this game and move it up the que. Good luck.

hi,
many thanks for the update. I would be over the moon to be part of the play testing cadre if this module in the making can gain some momentum using newly developed turbo rockets to escape the gravity of outside influence.

 

[Gunner Scott]

I think we will all be in nursing homes by the time SaP comes out lol

Scott

 

[Corporal Kindel]

Being the author of this HASL, I'll try to clarify..

Slaughter at Ponyri is still a real HASL 'in the works' (albeit slow works). I've sidelined myself over the past 4 years from ASL for personal reasons. SaP is in good hands however, but those hands have been busy with other projects.

My personal thoughts remain unchanged - that SaP has the makings of being the most interesting HASL (excepting RB perhaps) we'll see. We don't have anything like it now, and that includes any 3rd party or MMP release. It's old-school Russian vs. German, combined arms slug-it-out on Russian terrain - but on a scale we've not seen. Kursk hasn't yet been captured by ASL - but this can do it. It is a great shame that it hasn't seen the light of day, and I'll take a good measure of responsibility for that.

All I can hope is that it does take flight someday. That will require the attention and determination of others who I hope will see what I see in this game and move it up the que. Good luck.

I love Kursk scenarios, especially the ones involving fortified defenses, wire, mines, trenches, hip guns (the immovable object) vs the irresistible force. Scenarios like the Broadway to Prokhorovka mini-cg which I played 5 or 6 years ago on VASL which I enjoyed immensely. The thing that's kool about Kursk is that the Germans still were using a range of mediocre vehicles, not just the heavies, tiger and ferdinand, like the mark IIIjs etc, and all these tanks are susceptible to Russian HIP 76L & 57LL gun side shots which have mucho possibility of placement given all the grain. I love the map, as shown in the other Italian playtest post, haven't salivated that much in a long time

Ok, so this module has been in playtest since at least 2007, how many years before it realistically goes on pre-order/sees print: 2, 3, years or more?

Longer than that, actually.

It's disappointing that playtesting & development takes so long & is measured in years/decades. I understand why & that we all want quality balanced products ...

but, it's just that when we're pushing 50, one wonders how many years/decades one has left.

 

[Gunner Scott]

I dont think its a problem of time but more of a problem to find willing playtesters to actually deal with wonky SSR's, crazy taxi scenarios and CG rules and such. Nothing against people who want ultra complicated ASL products but i prefer something playable right out of the box with as little fuss as possible. So to find playtesters willing to deal such wackiness can be daunting. I seriously wish both Pete and Don luck in getting this published, they have a seriously long road ahead of them.


Scott

 

[Spencer Armstrong]

Don't you think that you're behaving like a bigoted self important supercilious prima dona? Just go back to being a nice guy again, deal?

I'm behaving exactly as I always have: sincerely.

S

 

[Spencer Armstrong]

Being the author of this HASL, I'll try to clarify..

Slaughter at Ponyri is still a real HASL 'in the works' (albeit slow works). I've sidelined myself over the past 4 years from ASL for personal reasons. SaP is in good hands however, but those hands have been busy with other projects.

My personal thoughts remain unchanged - that SaP has the makings of being the most interesting HASL (excepting RB perhaps) we'll see. We don't have anything like it now, and that includes any 3rd party or MMP release. It's old-school Russian vs. German, combined arms slug-it-out on Russian terrain - but on a scale we've not seen. Kursk hasn't yet been captured by ASL - but this can do it. It is a great shame that it hasn't seen the light of day, and I'll take a good measure of responsibility for that.

All I can hope is that it does take flight someday. That will require the attention and determination of others who I hope will see what I see in this game and move it up the que. Good luck.

Thanks for the insight, Don. As HASLs go, there's nothing I'd rather see.

S

 

[p3love]

I think we will all be in nursing homes by the time SaP comes out lol

Scott

Thats alright! In between games we can have zimmer frame races (or walking stick fencing should any arguments arise....likely)