Number of Dummy counters for Night Scenario Defender

[DVexile]

E1.2 SCENARIO DEFENDER: The Scenario Defender in a night scenario may use HIP to set up 25% (FRU) of his onboard squad-equivalents (using squads and HS only [EXC: Japanese include crew MMC also]) and any SMC/SW that set(s) up with them in the same Location. The Scenario Defender may set up his remaining forces concealed, receiving Dummy counters equal to the number of squad-equivalents in his OB either at start or (separately) as reinforcements.

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The Scenario Defender's OB is three full squads and one half squad. How many Dummy counters does he get (three or four)?

Basically this is a FRU/FRD question. The rule doesn't specify for the Dummy counters, but it does use FRU earlier in the rule for HIP.

 

[klasmalmstrom]

I'd say three - since you can't get 1/2 of a "?" counter. So, in essence, FRD.

 

[Jwil2020]

I think the FRU mechanic applies only to the HIP units the scenario defender gets. Hence in your example 3.5 SE x 25% = 0.875 FRU= 1 SE.

But when it comes to the number of Dummies, there is no FRU. So 3.5 SE= 3 Dummies.

 

[A_T_Great]

E1.2 SCENARIO DEFENDER: The Scenario Defender in a night scenario may use HIP to set up 25% (FRU) of his onboard squad-equivalents (using squads and HS only [EXC: Japanese include crew MMC also]) and any SMC/SW that set(s) up with them in the same Location. The Scenario Defender may set up his remaining forces concealed, receiving Dummy counters equal to the number of squad-equivalents in his OB either at start or (separately) as reinforcements.

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The Scenario Defender's OB is three full squads and one half squad. How many Dummy counters does he get (three or four)?

Basically this is a FRU/FRD question. The rule doesn't specify for the Dummy counters, but it does use FRU earlier in the rule for HIP.

Since you only have three squad equivalents, you only get three dummies.

 

[DVexile]

Thanks everyone! Nice to see so many folks think alike on this one.

 

[DVexile]

Today I stumbled across a Q&A that I somehow missed originally which directly addresses this and confirms everyone’s conclusion:

E1.2 & E1.411 The Chapter E Clarification for these rules makes reference to squad equivalents in at-start OB for HIP/dummy concealment/-Cloaking. Is this FRU or FRD?

A. FRU for HIP; no rounding (effectively FRD) for dummies & Cloaking. [Compil2]

 

[clubby]

E1.2 SCENARIO DEFENDER: The Scenario Defender in a night scenario may use HIP to set up 25% (FRU) of his onboard squad-equivalents (using squads and HS only [EXC: Japanese include crew MMC also]) and any SMC/SW that set(s) up with them in the same Location. The Scenario Defender may set up his remaining forces concealed, receiving Dummy counters equal to the number of squad-equivalents in his OB either at start or (separately) as reinforcements.

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The Scenario Defender's OB is three full squads and one half squad. How many Dummy counters does he get (three or four)?

Basically this is a FRU/FRD question. The rule doesn't specify for the Dummy counters, but it does use FRU earlier in the rule for HIP.

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[CarlosR]

If I may add a question onto this, if it is 2 squads for set up and 1squad for reinforcements; does the defender get 3 dummies for set up or does the defender get 2 dummies for set up and 1 dummy for reinforcement.?

 

[ScottRomanowski]

I think the scenario defender would get 2 "?" counters at start, and 1 "?" counter with the reinforcements. I know 1 "?" counter for units from entering offboard is useless.
E1.2 has "The Scenario Defender may set up his remaining forces concealed, receiving Dummy counters equal to the number of squad-equivalents in his OB either at start or (separately) as reinforcements."

 

[EagleIV]

I know 1 "?" counter for units from entering offboard is useless.

One dummy in general is useless since it takes 2 dummies to make a dummy stack and if you put the squad and dummy in the same stack you can't put another concealment counter on the stack.