New AFV counter if anyone is doing Chinese Civil war stuff. Tooz?

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Finding sources that cite when and where this rarity was used in battle will be the challenge. Best bet in my opinion would be for the Chinese Civil War 1945-49. We do have ASLers in China and Taiwan, so maybe they can find some detailed information. For me two ingredients spark scenario design:
  1. maps and boards
  2. counters both new and in already in the counterset that have received little or zero usage to date.
 

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My question is what version of Chinese Communist forces to use. I would tend to think the Forgotten War CPVA would be too strong, and the Chapter G would be too weak….
 

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Found on another Website: (Translated)

Chinese conversion the M10 HE 105mm self-propelled howitzer

By order of the command of the ROC AF in the winter of 1948, in Shanghai Railway Workshops Jiangwan was created self-propelled howitzer, by adjusting the tower spg M10 Wolverine for 105mm captured by the Japanese howitzer pattern 2591 (Type 91). The cannon was delivered from the military armory no. 60 in Nanjing. The first attempt at reconstruction was not successful and so the guns were reworked in the workshops 61. military armory.

From Taiwanese sources, it is not clear whether the in the third civil war were self-propelled howitzers deployed in the fighting. One thing is certain, however, that with a retreating Kuomintangem were on the island of Taiwan. Here, then, serve for 4. ward in 44. brigade.

Self-propelled howitzers were reportedly showcased at military parades in the years 1951 and 1952. To download howitzers of the equipment occurred in the fifties, thanks to the delivery of north american works M7.

After the delisting, were left two pieces, the first was in armor game-playing school and the second was at 44. brigade. Sadly, neither of these weapons is not preserved in its original form. Because, the military leaders left the spg will take "again rearm" decoy anti-tank weapons - supposedly to avoid misleading the public - and I quote: "... the most people don't understand that it's M10 ...".

Basic information
  • army designation: not known
  • 1. redevelopment: Railway workshop station Jiangwan, Shanghai, China
  • 2. remodeling: 61. military armory
  • rebuilt: 34 pieces
  • in service: in the years 1948-1956 (?)
  • service: 5 persons (estimated number)
  • weight: 29600 kg (data before reconstruction)
  • total length: 5,96 m (data before reconstruction)
  • overall width: 3,04 m (data before reconstruction)
  • overall height: undetected
Armament
  • captured japanese howitzer: 10cm pattern 2591 (Type 91)
  • caliber rated: 10 cm
  • caliber design: 105 mm
  • some sources indicate the chinese designation: X1
Feats
  • max. speed: 48 km/h
  • range: 320 km (data before reconstruction)
Note
Correction and additions to the text of the day: 2012.10.18

Source
Soldier's Guide to the Japanese Army. War Department, Washington, 1944, ISBN does not
TM-E 30-480, Handbook on Japanese Military Forces, ed War Department, Washington, 1944, ISBN does not
 

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Chinese Civil War 1946 - 1949 scenarios will need thorough historical checks.

[Though the People's Republic of China will severely restrict access to their files, if existing still]

And Taiwan's files may not exist at all.
 
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