Generals who be 10-3 leaders (if I can find a tactical ASL-size action that they fought in real life.)

[Hutch]

Actually…why not Ted Roosevelt Jr.?!
MoH for Utah Beach. Oldest soldier to land at Normandy. Only general to land with first wave. Etc.

Career cut short.

 

[Hutch]

We are basing the 10-3 model on their overall career, not the specific actions.

 

[Vinnie]

We are basing the 10-3 model on their overall career, not the specific actions.

Very true.
Freyberg might well have been a 10-3 in WW1 but he was a bit of a disaster as a general.

 

[Robin Reeve]

Sgt Steiner in Cross of Iron is closer to a 10-3 than Captain Sponz...

 

[pensatl1962]

Career cut short.

Heart attacks tend to do that.

 

[witchbottles]

Audie Murphies were rather rare, weren't they?

it does seem to me that far more of the highest decorations for valor under fire while leading small unit actions in World War 2, were awarded to enlisted, NCO, and junior officer ranks, rather than Field grade and above ranks. at least, that is what the award citations indicate.

 

[witchbottles]

Nice to see you back on the forums

That's a fair point, there's possibly not enough 10-3's being used in the game then perhaps?

I believe the 10-3 is a powerful counter in ASL, and should represent the uncommon but documented occurrences, where Majors and below in ranks, managed to achieve through their leadership and bravery under fire, very uncommon victories in the skirmishes or battles where they did so. Other examples, Sgt Pavlov in Stalingrad. Lt Witzig on Long Stop Hill in Tunisia, Captain Harry Torgerson USMC on Gavutu, the tank commander of "China Girl" on Betio, 2nd Lt Edward Bale. 1st Lt Alexander Bonneyman in the same fight. 1st Lt William D Hawkins in the same fight. Major Henry Courtney, USMC Sugarloaf Hill battle, Okinawa, Charles Upham's leadership of his company on Crete. The list goes on and on and on, World War 2 was a long war. Distinctive and decisive small unit leadership occurred more often in battles of the scale ASL is best suited to represent (battalion size or smaller), more often than the histories record such acts as being cited for award by higher commanders later on.

KRL, Jon H

 

[witchbottles]

Believe its better to use more 667 squads (inspired=battle harden) under his command, in the scenario design. And perhaps other leaders will also be inspired.

this is a good representation for leaders with a historically high level of inspiring troops under their command to better performance on the battlefields. Red Mike Edson comes immediately to mind here, after his leadership as a Lt Col on Tulagi and Guadalcanal. Marines under his command may be better represented in an ASL design by making many of them fanatic by SSR rather than putting a 10-3 Lt Col Edson on the Ridge (even though he was there and actually did lead a small late in the battle counterattack to stop a group of infiltrators with his handful of HQ Marines who were with him at that moment.).

 

[witchbottles]

is a 10-3 too powerful in a design? I think that depends on the design itself, actually.

 

[Psycho]

Sgt Steiner in Cross of Iron is closer to a 10-3 than Captain Sponz...

Or better yet… loosely based on the true story of Johann Schwerdfeger (1914-2015). The real-life Wehrmacht NCO was a highly decorated combat veteran who fought through both the Battle of the Caucasus and Kuban pocket

 

[Alan Hume]

I believe the 10-3 is a powerful counter in ASL, and should represent the uncommon but documented occurrences, where Majors and below in ranks, managed to achieve through their leadership and bravery under fire, very uncommon victories in the skirmishes or battles where they did so. Other examples, Sgt Pavlov in Stalingrad. Lt Witzig on Long Stop Hill in Tunisia, Captain Harry Torgerson USMC on Gavutu, the tank commander of "China Girl" on Betio, 2nd Lt Edward Bale. 1st Lt Alexander Bonneyman in the same fight. 1st Lt William D Hawkins in the same fight. Major Henry Courtney, USMC Sugarloaf Hill battle, Okinawa, Charles Upham's leadership of his company on Crete. The list goes on and on and on, World War 2 was a long war. Distinctive and decisive small unit leadership occurred more often in battles of the scale ASL is best suited to represent (battalion size or smaller), more often than the histories record such acts as being cited for award by higher commanders later on.

KRL, Jon H

Well said