Justiciar
Elder Member
That was just a particular quark of the bartender...A neutron walks into a bar and orders a pint of beer...
...and asks the bartender how much?
the bartender says...for you...no charge
That was just a particular quark of the bartender...A neutron walks into a bar and orders a pint of beer...
...and asks the bartender how much?
the bartender says...for you...no charge
Well, everything has its upside and downside. Go to the top or bottom of the street and you will find another bar, somewhat strange but quite charming.That was just a particular quark of the bartender...
Martin I do not like to lose any more than the next player. I still much prefer to play with someone who I enjoy being around. It sounds like you do to just clarifying my earlier comment. Thank you.I've never met anyone happy to lose.
i've met lots of people who say they are. But, just by the look on their face, and their tone, it's clear they would rather have won.
I'll be honest, losing doesn't spoil the game for me, but I do enjoy winning considerably more. And I do play to win and am slightly disappointed when I lose even if it's been a brilliant scenario.
Correct. Don't let Benn fool ya's all though. He'll do anything whatsoever to win. Even to the extent of pulling the wrong tanks out of a box and then arguing that he "did me a major favour" and that it was better anyway that I had the Russian ones with the smoke exponent rather than the Russian ones with no smoke but armour making it impervious to the 88L gun defending the bridge which I had to get across.Martin I do not like to lose any more than the next player. I still much prefer to play with someone who I enjoy being around. It sounds like you do to just clarifying my earlier comment. Thank you.
That's it! All of you, off the stage now!Well, everything has its upside and downside. Go to the top or bottom of the street and you will find another bar, somewhat strange but quite charming.
Folks,My friend's Canadian. This was in Canada.
Not that you're wrong about our acceptance of injustice.
I agree, but must also say I have found my definition of 'inconsequential' differing from that of my opponent before."Inconsequential violations of sequence should be tolerated in the spirit of good sportsmanship."
I don't think that's being too technical...not moving a Berserk unit first is often NOT inconsequential. Neither isI might also add that although forgiving a forgotten rally attempt or SW repair, etc, there are certain things on the ASOP that I feel must be adhered to in order or there is no sense in even having them numbered as such. An obvious example is Berserk units being the first ones to move. A less obvious scenario I recently discovered:
A broken crew w/HMG is stacked with a GO crew w/mtr. The GO crew is unable to recover (1.14B) or receive the transfer of the HMG (1.22B). Now we reach 1.23B where the broken crew can attempt to rally. He rolls 6,6 and disappears. "Yeah, the crew with the mortar will try to Recover his HMG." Uh, no, he won't. Not until your next MPh. "Well, it's still the Rally Phase but, yeah, if you want to be technical about it." [Translation: if you want to be an a**hole about it.]
So is that being too 'technical' about things? Otherwise, one would attempt to rally/self-rally all crews and HS first, out of ASOP order, to see if anyone rolls boxcars and drops their weapons. I'm sure there are a number of other things one can find in the ASOP that seem to be numbered as they are for a reason. If we had started the PFPh and you forgot to try to pick up an unpossessed SW at the bottom of a huge Jenga-like stack, I have no problem with it, unless it was dropped only in that previous RPh by a HS/crew that rolled boxcars.
Ditto. I've also found my definition of "good sportsmanship" to be a bit different from others'.I agree, but must also say I have found my definition of 'inconsequential' differing from that of my opponent before.
Your quote concerning R/R/R perhaps summed up my message even better than I did. In different Locations, often inconsequential; in the same Location, often consequential.I don't think that's being too technical...not moving a Berserk unit first is often NOT inconsequential. Neither is
your example about Recover/Self-Rally. Recover/Repair/Rally in a strange order in different locations is often inconsequential.
indy
My version of this story was far better I thought.Folks,
As I've posted in the opponents wanted column that I will be in Aberdeen in November and am looking for
a game, I want to set the record straight.
It was the only time I played X. Early in the game, he rallied a unit and repaired a MG (in that order). He asked
if it was ok, I said yes. Later, I asked for the same, he said no; he said he played "strictly by the book." I noticed
that in other games, he played "loosely" with the rules...always to his advantage. In one game, he had two Guns and
four crews. He claimed that he thought the Guns automatically came with crews, and that the two crews on
the scenario card were extra. I found out later he pulled the same stunt three months earlier at another tournament.
Oh, it was the last turn...I didn't make his life miserable for an hour. He did ask the TD for a ruling. The TD sided with me.
I don't think X's behaviour was because he was at a tournament. I would characterize him as a part time player
and a full time jerk. I have never played anyone else even close to X in or out of a tournament.
Like everyone else, I want to play by the book. I consider charts part of the book. And the ASoP says that
"Inconsequential violations of sequence should be tolerated in the spirit of good sportsmanship."
To answer Martin's original questions, I would and have pointed out things that were to my detriment (as has he).
The broken unit is not allowed to stay ADJ. Had it been Martin (or me, or most everyone else I have played), the
unit would be allowed (forced?) to rout before advancing a unit in for CC.
indy
The best one is when one says "do you wanna repair that MG" and they say thanks and then roll a 6Normally, when I remind somebody of their sniper they usually miss anyway and I get to feel good about being awesome.
Concerning strange attitudes, it's in my nature to be reflective. If the tone of the game is fun and earnest, I'm all good with a go back or two. If the games tone is a little more serious I can do that to.
It's not being an a**hole. In this situation, not following the ASOP is certainly not inconsequential, as you mention.A broken crew w/HMG is stacked with a GO crew w/mtr. The GO crew is unable to recover (1.14B) or receive the transfer of the HMG (1.22B). Now we reach 1.23B where the broken crew can attempt to rally. He rolls 6,6 and disappears. "Yeah, the crew with the mortar will try to Recover his HMG." Uh, no, he won't. Not until your next MPh. "Well, it's still the Rally Phase but, yeah, if you want to be technical about it." [Translation: if you want to be an a**hole about it.]
Still one of my favorites, still cracks me up hearing it!And my personal favourite 'didnt notice the hill now my tanks are misplaced can I flatten the map and pretend It does not exist'.....