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"Markets have calmed down somewhat after statements from Beijing -- because the Communist regime in China is far more credible that the president of the United States. Think about that" -- Paul Krugman

What? The rest of the world doesn't know that you cannot take what Trump says seriously? How surprising.
 

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"Markets have calmed down somewhat after statements from Beijing -- because the Communist regime in China is far more credible that the president of the United States. Think about that" -- Paul Krugman

What? The rest of the world doesn't know that you cannot take what Trump says seriously? How surprising.
Krugman? The same guy who said the markets would collapse if Trump was elected.....

"Paul Krugman is a New York Times columnist, a Nobel Prize-winning economist and a liberal. He is also remembered for confidently and publicly predicting, prior to the 2016 presidential election, that if Trump was elected president, the stock market would tank. The market did not tank, but has flourished. "

https://triblive.com/opinion/letters/14194218-74/letter-to-the-editor-will-dems-tank-stock-market

If you bought the stock market on election night 2016 and added contracts on accrued equity...….you would own millions right now.....

So give us your deflection, distraction, subject switch, appeasement, ……whatever it is, won't refute this...…..
 

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Krugman? The same guy who said the markets would collapse if Trump was elected.....

"Paul Krugman is a New York Times columnist, a Nobel Prize-winning economist and a liberal. He is also remembered for confidently and publicly predicting, prior to the 2016 presidential election, that if Trump was elected president, the stock market would tank. The market did not tank, but has flourished. "

https://triblive.com/opinion/letters/14194218-74/letter-to-the-editor-will-dems-tank-stock-market

If you bought the stock market on election night 2016 and added contracts on accrued equity...….you would own millions right now.....

So give us your deflection, distraction, subject switch, appeasement, ……whatever it is, won't refute this...…..
You got it right. Krugman is the biggest douche bag in New York City and that is a high bar to clear for that town.
 

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Krugman? The same guy who said the markets would collapse if Trump was elected.....
So give us your deflection, distraction, subject switch, appeasement, ……whatever it is, won't refute this...…..
Another Trump supporter who mistakes the Dow for Trump's capabilities as President. When the DOW tanks - we'll hear from same quarter that it wasn't Trump's fault.
 

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Another Trump supporter who mistakes the Dow for Trump's capabilities as President. When the DOW tanks - we'll hear from same quarter that it wasn't Trump's fault.
Yep, they are warming up their pipes "It's Obama's fault for running up 10T in debt"
 

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Another Trump supporter who mistakes the Dow for Trump's capabilities as President. When the DOW tanks - we'll hear from same quarter that it wasn't Trump's fault.
And we will hear from you that the rise over the last 2 years wasn't due to Trump, but when it falls, we will hear it was all of Trump's fault. Please save your hypocrisy.
 

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Another Trump supporter who mistakes the Dow for Trump's capabilities as President. When the DOW tanks - we'll hear from same quarter that it wasn't Trump's fault.
Another planned economy supporter who can't tell the difference between the cyclical process of market economies and the policies that let the markets do what they are designed to do....assess value...either way it would be because Trump is wrong....
 

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Another planned economy supporter who can't tell the difference between the cyclical process of market economies and the policies that let the markets do what they are designed to do....assess value...either way it would be because Trump is wrong....
and just a few short years ago people said the same thing to both of you except the name was not Trump but Obama but I know you guys don't play politics only liberals do that.....
 

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and just a few short years ago people said the same thing to both of you except the name was not Trump but Obama but I know you guys don't play politics only liberals do that.....
That's odd because I just did I search of my posts regarding Obama and Economy, found nothing you refer to...

Perhaps you could post my reply that I am not finding regarding this contradiction, you must clearly have read it here to name both Dave and I since otherwise it would give evidence that you play politics by putting words in peoples' mouths......anything short of a reply by you without a post by me with that criteria verifies that...…
 

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That's odd because I just did I search of my posts regarding Obama and Economy, found nothing you refer to...

Perhaps you could post my reply that I am not finding regarding this contradiction, you must clearly have read it here to name both Dave and I since otherwise it would give evidence that you play politics by putting words in peoples' mouths......anything short of a reply by you without a post by me with that criteria verifies that...…

My reply was not in regards to economics per se but in general (IE: Republicans had nothing good to say about Obama and vice versa Democrats about Trump) and you were right there with your politics/ criticisms. You are not unique:

"Hmmm, media didn't even report this last night....

How odd is it that a Harvard Study Media Report on Trump's first 100 days was 80/20 Negative/Positive and Obama's was 60/40 Positive/Negative and this story was just......well........buried. " May 2017

"Hey Sean, here is the rest you forgot....

If you like your plan, you can keep your doctor, Benghazi was caused by a guy on youtube-plus we couldn't help them, use of chemical weapons is a red line in the sand, and if anyone engages in cyber-espionage it will be considered an act of war...." Aug 2018

"The irony of fact is the picture on the bottom is how the left reacted after Obama promised "flexibility" to Putin and the secret Iran meetings after giving billions back to a terrorist sponsor Putin backing state. " Jul 2017

"Your subjective myopic is self-evident....

So when the Head of the IRS was fired the next day by Obama about the IRS Scandal, Dems, the left, and the media went after it like this? No wait that was called "A Phony Scandal". Fast and Furious? Called the same.......Benghazi and the "Video made me do it"? Same. Iran Deal with funneled secret cash? Same.

David Petraeus, a potential future Republican candidate, then CIA Director is brought up on charges for taking a calendar home with him. There is no classified info between him and his biographer Broadwell found, just a calendar, and the only way the classified info on the calendar could be obtained is if someone in his physical presence acquires it......there is only one way to acquire it.....it's not electronic/digital.....result from Comey? Prosecution.

Hillary Clinton with a private e-mail server with classified info and some 30,000 messages wiped clean over "Chelsea's Wedding Invitations". Not only could someone physically break into her place to acquire the info, but every e-mail contact with its transmission is a potential physical/electronic-digital hack interception point. That means hundreds to thousands of potential access points to acquire that classified info........result from Comey? Nothing.

Obama in October 2016 is given a classified briefing and is made aware about the investigation into the Trump Campaign. That same info is declassified and is made public in a November-December Congressional Hearing. You are telling me that a Chicago Democrat, who wants his legacy intact, wants Clinton to win to be his third term, who has the ability to declassify information and have it presented just as it was in the November-December Congressional Hearing, didn't release the info before the election to slam dunk it for Hillary? While all his executive branch machinery was in place? That's how you know there is nothing there..." May 2017


"The largest government program in American history did exactly what we all said it would do........FAIL....

Only the left still cling to planned economy of failure. Nothing to see here, if we just did more of it, it would get better.. " Oct 2016

"Never before since the end of the Second World War has a president made decisions that have marginalized what our polity has built. Obama is the most debilitating decision maker in the White House since Herbert Hoover." Jan 2017

Yeah, your just a clear headed thinker :study:. No bias from you, Matt.

We all have them. Get over it.

Here's your best one:

"This will move the polls, denial may be concrete, but here is your October Surprise, and Wikileaks isn't done yet either. Now the question is does the momentum in Trump's favor give him a lead that corruption can't beat. Sorry Dems, your candidate is a criminal"

Talking of Trump, who's the candidate that is a criminal?
 
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My reply was not in regards to economics per se but in general (IE: Republicans had nothing good to say about Obama and vice versa Democrats about Trump) and you were right there with your politics/ criticisms. You are not unique:
The thread is about presidents and the economy, you even replied to with the subject in mind regarding the Dow in Don's post on the said subject....

Yep, they are warming up their pipes "It's Obama's fault for running up 10T in debt"
Meaning the Dow will tank and Trump supporters will blame it on 10 T in Debt from Obama's years.

Then you respond that both Dave and I are biased regarding the "same thing"

and just a few short years ago people said the same thing to both of you except the name was not Trump but Obama but I know you guys don't play politics only liberals do that.....
Then when I respond that there is no post from me on said subject, you go shopping for posts from me regarding the same thing and when you find NONE, it goes from same thing (specific) to bias in general....

Nice bait and switch...…Per Se..

Criticism doesn't equal bias. Is the criticism valid? If I support an agenda and think its the best agenda available it would be bias if I didn't give credit or support to someone who doesn't direct policies/directives toward that agenda. Did Obama do something in the last few short years (your time period you choose to consider) toward the agenda I think is best? No...

You use bias with criticism as an indicator of bias the same way progs use race claims when someone doesn't support government programs

Did I give him credit for bailing out the economy in 2009 by freeing up credit after the housing mess? Sure did.....

Notice in one of my posts that you used I mentioned Herbert Hoover and that Obama was better then him? What political party was Hoover in? Oh, I am so biased!

"Never before since the end of the Second World War has a president made decisions that have marginalized what our polity has built. Obama is the most debilitating decision maker in the White House since Herbert Hoover." Jan 2017
Here's your best one:

"This will move the polls, denial may be concrete, but here is your October Surprise, and Wikileaks isn't done yet either. Now the question is does the momentum in Trump's favor give him a lead that corruption can't beat. Sorry Dems, your candidate is a criminal"

Talking of Trump, who's the candidate that is a criminal?
So the momentum carried him over and he won election, your right it was one of my better predictions.....

Speaking of bias.....Comey, who investigated Clinton during the campaign, just stated that everyone should vote Democrat in 2020. He didn't say vote Independent, or vote for a Republican other then Trump, or anyone but Trump...….just Democrat...
Your right, this could be my best one if it's corroborated...

BUT THE BEST OF ONE OF ALL...….IS THIS...……YOU POST THIS...

No bias from you, Matt.

We all have them. Get over it.
AFTER POSTING THIS 17 HOURS EARLIER TO BRIAN IN ANOTHER THREAD....

That is exactly the same feeling that FakeDave68124 gets when the Democrats lose.
The Democrats of the 70's & 80's are the Republicans of today, corrupt. The pendulum will swing back. Just be here to call the same balls & strikes.
So you are telling people to not be biased as an argument of imperative and telling them that you are biased as means to justify in an argument on the SAME DAY.
All the while calling people like Dave "fake" and others "hypocrites" and "liars" and you play both sides of the fence, head and tails on the coin.

So first you say that only we say Liberals play politics....
Then you do a subject switch when you have no evidence of the posted thread
Then you claim I am biased by posting replies from me and blend bias and criticism to be the same thing.
Then you instruct people to be objective and fair, non-biased in format as an imperative
Then you claim since all are biased as everyone is, it is therefore justifiable in argument. Accuse others of what you are...

You are going to wear your convoluted self-imposed stain on here like white on rice....

"Balls and Strikes"? You are the reason instant replay was invented

Yeah, your just a clear headed thinker :study:
Clear thinking enough not to use being biased and one shouldn't be as an argument at the same time

Get over it
I will when you crack a logic syllogism
 
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Matt,

When I typed that 1st comment it was not meant to be an argument against you but just a symbol of what has passed and will again pass. Each side picks what they want and blames the other side. I did not re-read the 1st post but was responding to your "Trump is wrong" comment. That is all.

I said that we are all biased. You, I , everyone. It is what made you and how you think. Not sure where you 'think' that I am saying I am not biased. You reference a post from another subject about Trump going to prison. My response was that it would not make my day, nor ruin my day if he did or didn't. He wants Trump in prison is the same response that the Republicans wanted HRC in prison, you included. What did that get us? I thought B. Clinton should have been impeached but it didn't make or ruin my day when that did not happen. What is/ is not the bias? That I don't have to have a pound of flesh that I am now pretending to be Ghandhi? Please.

Everybody knows that GS lost a lot of posts in one (or two) of the migrations to it's current server/ format. So just because there is no post (right now) that you didn't say anything of Obama or the Obama economy does not mean that you never did but look at some of the other posts and any reasonable person can come to the conclusion that you probably did. Who cares, the posts that are there are enough to show your mindset. You made half-cocked accusations with absolutely no basis of fact. You definitely do not walk down the center isle and my first comment still stands:

and just a few short years ago people said the same thing to both of you except the name was not Trump but Obama but I know you guys don't play politics only liberals do that.....

I did crack a logic syllogism, you are just reaching.
 
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