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Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Gunner Scott, Feb 12, 2018.
That has to be a photo shopped pic. Nobody can be that dumb.
Lot of people voted. I have to disagree. -- jim
I voted too, just not for either of the two most likely to win candidates. -- jim (if you're picking the lesser of two evils, you're still picking evil)
It seems that the pic was photo shopped. I knew that it had to be.
Jim's got my vote for this - voting for any politician is still voting for an evil.
It was, of course. The issues remain, however. If you lean left and vote for candidates who do so also - you are still voting in career politicians consumed with the desire to make money off the taxes you pay. Same thing if you lean to the right and vote in candidates who do so also. For that matter, if you vote for anyone who has held publically-elected offices before the election they are currently running in, they are still just milking the teat off your dime, period.
Flat tax, everyone, period, no exceptions - is the first fix. everyone pays 10% - on everything. Food stamps to the President's salary - 10% in the kitty. Corporations and mom and pop shop 10% in the kitty. Two things occur. No longer does 75% of Americans receive an average $3,000USD + Tax return check every year - and the fiscal health of the Federal government increases exponentially every April 15th. (A REAL budget surplus to pay down national debt.)
The second is 2 terms term limits for every elected office in America- from the school board in your home town to the judges at the courthouse, to the Senators to the White House - no one is exempt. 2 terms and your out. "If you couldn't get 'er done in 2 terms, it ain't gonna happen, sonny." What's good enough for POTUS is good enough for everyone else. Removes the class privilege status of being a career politician milking the public dime for a paycheck.
Beyond that, there are a few good ideas we've all heard and seen before. Here's one: Want more police and better protection while ensuring a higher standard of conduct among officers in handling crime? Get a better budget - the Feds already subsidize local law enforcement, how much more could they do without paying out over 2 Billion a year + in income tax returns to those who are not likely to pay income tax in the first place at all?
Why do the redfascist ugly people have to masqeurade to oppose things they are themselves, before starting the massmurders.
The fascist lesbian uncovered woman to the left are actually only in the neo-socialist movement for the boobs, I mean to get feminazi friends and some love.
I know! Like Tim Murphy, Ted Haggard and Trey Radel?
Throwing out successful public servants for a new flock of inexperienced ones seems a recipe regression, even if one does manage to toss a few bad apples.
It's been a working recipe since 1945 for the White House, why not apply the recipe to everyone. "Equality for all under the law" ring any bells?
You fishing small fish in shallow waters with conducts of sex, drugs and bad words. whats up?
Clintons, Soros, Weinstein, Obama etc is deep deep , way down..
The Good old Pedophiles: utter FAIL & hypocrisy is astounding! Trump's Admin is the most corrupt in American history & the GOP is complicit!! And you people support this party, you should be ashamed of yourselves.
You picked two of the smallest political fish imaginable in your video link so, why not?
I presume you're conceding the point on my list of redfascist ugly people then?
The president has a large entourage of talent to help him out. The school board and judiciary have far fewer resources. I don't think I'd like a system of 8 year judges, for example. Now if the term limits weren't 4 years, might be some wiggle room but I don't think using a highly exceptional situation to be the basis for the norm is wise. I wouldn't kick a skilled surgeon to the curb after 8 years, why should I want to kick a skilled public servant.
R's are dummies.
the President's "large entourage of talent" changes every 8 years (maximum, sometimes as fast as every week or so - as we have seen from Trump), anyway - at the whim of the man elected to the office in the first place. He picks and chooses great ( and not so great) people to fill those positions as he desires. There is no difference between this and the hired or appointed assistants, secretaries, recordkeepers, historians, or others at a local school board (as an example). The only difference is how much they might earn doing such a job for an elected official.
I'm still voting no, should I get the chance. It was ok with the framers to go past two terms for the president and I'm waiting on a great reason to sway my vote.
You actually think the ones that have been there for the past 20 years and have gotten us where we are now are successful? At what, screwing things up?
Yes what we need now is for Bill Clinton to be back in the White House. He could invite Anthony Weiner, Jeffery Epstein and Harvey Weinstein over for a little get together with the interns! Mayne they could have a toast to Mary Jo while they are at it.
The successful ones have 1 vote, they don’t work in a vacuum. The same system also worked for decades before that. I don’t believe people with no incentive to produce long term results will decrease partisan gridlock.
The people in office now for the most part are the same ones who got us where we are now. Since both partys have had total control over the government at one point or another over the past 20 years I fail to see which are actually successful at anything except getting elected.