Tater
Elder Member
Humor is sometimes a lost art...
Who is the world's worst ASL player of all time?
- Thread starter Jacometti
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R Hooks
Smoke Break brb
I think the worst ASL player is someone who by all measures; like a student of WW2, or a gamer in other eras, would like ASL, but never tries it.
Brad M-V
Senior Member
As Perry stated, it requires a lot of data over a long period of time to know for sure. Because of that, the worst or greatest can only exist within a certain paradigm; an event or location for example where a pattern can be accurately recorded; events (including repeats of same) and locations (my place for example) can each have the worst & greatest player to ever play there, but that player may not be the worst or greatest when compared with other events and places.
So, if Perry is right (and I believe him to be), then there is no such thing as the worst or greatest player, of all time! This topic, like the "Who is the world's greatest ASL player of all time" topic, is misleading and is in fact a false question.
So, if Perry is right (and I believe him to be), then there is no such thing as the worst or greatest player, of all time! This topic, like the "Who is the world's greatest ASL player of all time" topic, is misleading and is in fact a false question.
Brad M-V
Senior Member
My answer to this question is, there isn't one. What do I win? 
jimfer
Member
I was when I started, probably many of us were. Stay the course learn from your mistakes and we all get better.:nod:
ibncalb
Senior Member
Craig Benn.
dpabrams77
Member
Well, I don't think I am a bad player but the results of recent games would suggest otherwise. I believe that random die rolls as advertised in VASL are a fallacy. My rolls are shit and my opponents are just better rollers. I am in a span now of three games, where my opponent has killed every tank of mine he has fired at with another tank, 11 straight times, 11 dead tanks! I will blame the dice. If you can't roll, you can't win. My dice simply do not execute when called upon. If this keeps up, I will go back to the dice cam and rolling live.
hongkongwargamer
Forum Guru
What were the drm’s on those 11 DR’s?
Jacometti
Elder Member
It can be hard to fend off those Matildas with their 40L guns with your Italian crap.
Sparafucil3
Forum Guru
Dice ruin an otherwise good game.
In all honesty, I know dice are what separates the game from Chess or Go. If I were designing ASL, I would make both players roll for every attack. If the dice "even out" then more rolls are better than fewer. If I can gack my attack, you can still gack your result. So now my 12 on a 6 -2 can still see you roll a 12 on the 4 in your favor MC and break. To me, it's not the randomness, it's the wild swings of randomness. My 6 -2 sees you Battle Harden, generate a Hero, triggers a SAN, SAN flies off and hits my best leader, breaks the whole stack on the LLMC and you're sitting there with 3 MF's left. JMO, YMMV. -- jim
dpabrams77
Member
Let's recap, WCW 4, Cat Becomes the Mouse , 3-dead Cromwell's, all hit and killed while in wooden buildings (+2) and some moving out, another +2. A HIP 6# struck in a wooden building and the crew broken. I had a Firefly, who got one shot off (did Kill a Tiger) and is instantly killed by another Tiger. All my units where fired on "once" and destroyed. No second chances.
DB7 Hill 920. A lone Panther with a 9-2, 4- 1/2 squads with 3 Pf's are assaulted by 9x T-34's. Again, 4x T-34's eliminated by a Panther who doesn't miss a single shot, through some burning hexes and at mostly moving targets. Now 2 of 3 Pf's hit, moving tanks, 2x more dead T-34's. Game over. That's 8 dead tanks, killed on one shot from another tank over two games plus two tanks killed with 3x Pf's. Ten dead tanks on 11 shots.
Started J24 Smashing the 3rd today. My ? T-34 fire's fires hit's a Pz IVH and rolls an 11 on a TK of 6. Pv IVH returns fire, hits, and rolls 4 on a 6 TK roll, NO SURPRISE!
That folks is a rant and a true story of 11 dead tanks, killed on 12 shot's. That's a 91.6% kill rate. Some day I will meet Random.org and when I do he might randomly catch an ear punch.
GeorgeBates
Elder Member
Meanwhile, should we call you a WAA-ambulance?
StevenMiller
Member
My wife is the worst. When I tried to introduce her to Squad Leader with just a handful of units on board #1, she wanted to know "where's the mall?"
Steven Pleva
Elder Member
The worst ASL player is the one who takes 20 minutes to move a meaningless HS in the back; argues both sides of a rule depending on which way serves him at the moment; cries about his luck incessantly; and finds any number of ways to suck the joy out of the experience. It has nothing to do with how well they play or wins and losses. JMHO...
Steve
Steve
rdw5150
it's just a game
To me, this is what separates ASL from most games. I love the randomness and the story a game tells. yes sometimes you are on the crappy end, but I still (after the dust settles) find it fun. I do not mind the wild swings. What I hate is a game full of rolling 9's.
Peace
Roger
rdw5150
it's just a game
Steven Pleva
Elder Member
Thankfully, they are few and far between...
Steve
rdw5150
it's just a game
I try not to judge all that strongly. I do not take it too seriously and I realize that is not how everyone wants to play. I use ASL as an escape from the real world as well as a social experience, not a deep tactical study that I know a lot of people are looking for.
Peace
Roger
Peace
Roger
BattleSchool
Elder Member
And yet the same players top the leader board year after year.Dice ruin an otherwise good game.
To me, it's not the randomness, it's the wild swings of randomness [that ruin the game].
Wild swings of randomness certainly test a player's resolve. We routinely face Personal Morale Checks (PMC), sometimes at several points during a scenario. My more memorable and rewarding games have been those where I have won (or come close to winning) when I have been on the receiving end of a randomness train wreck. More often than not, I never recover from a string of devastatingly "bad luck" (especially those that compound earlier mistakes on my part.)
Top players either are singularly lucky, or they are ingenious in the face of run-on randomness. I'm leaning toward the latter.
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That said, I think that certain chains of luck/unluck could be mitigated with some minor changes to the rules (e.g. by decoupling ROF from low rolls, adopting the Pleva OBA rule, etc.). Not that any of this would make me a better (or worse) player.