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[Old Noob]

The one thing to remember about flamethrowers, is the bullseye that goes with it.
Nobody wants you near them.

 

[TimNiesen]

I must admit that I have never seen a staff car used in ASL.

 

[TimNiesen]

Some time ago, Don2 went to the house of the designer of Diant module. He was playing the French and they blew up and burned poor Rommel in his command HT. With an AP round and not with a FT, however. Rommel had the sense to stay out of staff cars. Tim

 

[Robin Reeve]

I must admit that I have never seen a staff car used in ASL.

As you played SL previously, Buchholtz Station scenario had jeeps.

 

[Ric of The LBC]

As you played SL previously, Buchholtz Station scenario had jeeps.

Jeeps are not cars

WWII Army Staff Car with General and Driver (brickmania.com)

 

[Robin Reeve]

Jeeps are not cars

WWII Army Staff Car with General and Driver (brickmania.com)

A Jeep is not a car... I wonder what it is.
I am quite sure that the "staff car" is just a Kubelwagen.
US generals used Jeeps.
German note 94

Kfz 1: The Kuebelwagen was the military version of the VW and had its troop trials during the invasion of Poland. It was thereafter put into mass production, with
52,018 eventually being built. It was an extremely popular vehicle, but not as versatile as the Jeep.

 

[von Marwitz]

I am quite sure that the "staff car" is just a Kubelwagen.

It depends on the kind of "staff" which you are thinking about. A Kübelwagen might be adequate for the staff of a relatively small unit. The staff cars of larger formations were larger and offered more comfort if possibly less cross country capability. I'd say staff cars of larger German formations are not represented in the ASL counter mix. And with regard to the road situations during some periods of the year in Russia, they would have been subsituted with something more befitting of the terrible 'road' conditions there.

von Marwitz

 

[Actionjick]

It depends on the kind of "staff" which you are thinking about. A Kübelwagen might be adequate for the staff of a relatively small unit. The staff cars of larger formations were larger and offered more comfort if possibly less cross country capability. I'd say staff cars of larger German formations are not represented in the ASL counter mix. And with regard to the road situations during some periods of the year in Russia, they would have been subsituted with something more befitting of the terrible 'road' conditions there.

von Marwitz

Sounds like a great opportunity for a new counter!

 

[Actionjick]

Jeeps are not cars

WWII Army Staff Car with General and Driver (brickmania.com)

Must be Ike.

 

[von Marwitz]

Sounds like a great opportunity for a new counter!

You may be right. After all, we all love 'chrome' in the game, don't we?

This might just fit the bill:



von Marwitz

 

[Robin Reeve]

Well, Tim was evoking an actual scenario.
If he could tell us precisely what counter was represented, it would help us determine what he was speaking about.

 

[TimNiesen]

Robin, I very seldom played SL. Don1 and Steve played it hundreds of times more than I. Don 1 has copied the rules and is shipping them to me by mail. If the Stonne rules define a staff car I will find out. I wonder if it it is the counter mix of Stonne, which has been much praised for quality. A abberation apparently. Tim

 

[Kevin Kenneally]

A Jeep is not a car... I wonder what it is.

Robin

A "Jeep" is an "abomination" for wheeled vehicles.

 

[TimNiesen]

The Stonne game has a German counter for this "staff car." Not sure if all versions have this counter. Not sure if there are rules to go with it, however. Tim

 

[hongkongwargamer]

The Stonne game has a German counter for this "staff car." Not sure if all versions have this counter. Not sure if there are rules to go with it, however. Tim

Kfz 1 in Stonne4 Trial of Strength?
Kfz 4 in SH4 Trial of Strength?

 

[Tim Niesen]

I have not seen the counter or the rules for purchase of the "staff car." I hope that my copy of the five page set of rules comes in the mail tommrow. Tim

 

[TimNiesen]

Kfz 1 in Stonne4 Trial of Strength?
Kfz 4 in SH4 Trial of Strength?

Hong Kong Wargamer, Am I misinterpreting the issue or the counter? Tim

 

[hongkongwargamer]

The scenario Stonne4 Trial of Strength has a Kfz1 staff car
The scenario SH4 Trial of Strength has a Kfz4 staff car

 

[TimNiesen]

Okay. So it is a staff car. Is this a regular ASL counter? Tim

 

[Robin Reeve]

Okay. So it is a staff car. Is this a regular ASL counter? Tim

Tim, you don't have the scenario card, you don't want to go fetch your rulebook and you state that it is a staff car...
Hongkongwargamer provided the information that there are a Kfz 1 and a Kfz 4 in the OB.
And you are asking if counters exist for them.
If course there are!
The old Stonne module would not give elements of an OB that don't exist in counter form.
Are you expecting us, not only to do all the work for you, but to use common sense in your place?
Please go fetch your rules in your attic and the scenarios of Stonne : read them and ask informed questions.
Is that so complicated to do?