jguritza
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Do you ever see a new game and say, "My goodness! Another game about that!"
Who hasn't? Waterloo, Gettysburg, and the Battle of the Bulge readily come to mind. Maybe Stalingrad too--or the whole east-front theater, for that matter.Originally posted by jguritza
Do you ever see a new game and say, "My goodness! Another game about that!"
I'll second that. AH comes out with "Smithsonian" Gettysburg, and I'm scratching my head, asking, "Didn't you already do this a couple times back in the 60s? You advanced as far as G-burg '77 (which was a tremendous leap forward, even if the advanced game was unplayable), and now you're back to this? Why?"Originally posted by ericmwalters
What torques me is a new game on one of these subjects that doesn't "advance the ball" in some way, shape, or form in terms of treatment or understanding of the battle/war/engagement.
As a whole I agree, still, I'd like to see a game on the Pacific land fighting, rather than the next installment of Stalingrad.Originally posted by ericmwalters
I understand people's frustration with yet the next game on the Battle of the Bulge or Gettysburg, but if we told people NO MORE GAMES on these battles, we never would have gotten such gems such as GMT'S ARDENNES '44 or The Gamers' RSS game, THIS HALLOWED GROUND or Clash of Arms' SUMMER STORM.
What torques me is a new game on one of these subjects that doesn't "advance the ball" in some way, shape, or form in terms of treatment or understanding of the battle/war/engagement.
So you'll never catch me complaining about so many games on this or that particular battle!
--emw
How could you manage all those Russian units?Originally posted by Tom DeFranco
As a whole I agree, still, I'd like to see a game on the Pacific land fighting, rather than the next installment of Stalingrad.
Also does anyone know why it seems cooler to do the first half of the Eastern Front (Barbarossa, Case Blue, etc.), with the Nazis having their way than an Op: Bagration.
What about the other way around? Besides, even early on, the Russians have tons of units - their just weaker than the proverbial ninety-eight pound geek.Originally posted by freightshaker
How could you manage all those Russian units?
:scream:
Yaquinto had an "album" (came in a sleeve, like an old vinyl album) game about amphibious attacks in the Pacific. It was rather generic in nature, with no specific battles depicted.Originally posted by MCranmer
Speaking of Pacific land battles, I'd love to see a good game on the Tarawa invasion, something on a squad or platoon level, maybe something on the order of the Avalanche Press Panzer Grenadier series. I believe there was an ASL version of Tarawa, but I've never really had the inclination to make the investment (time or money) in the series. It seems like there would be a lot of interesting small unit actions in the Pacific that would make good games.
Good psot, I would like to see more about the British efforts during the war, we were after all one of the first to get stuck in as it were, and were in it from the start. Also I would like to see some of the more obscure battles out East (Russia) covered, such as the fighting on the Mius fron in August/September 43, Operations just after Bagration ended and such like, the far east would be good as well, but as said, the games market is mainly American owned and driven, so it is hardly surprising the amount of Bulge games etal is what it is.You're certainly right about all the Bulge games that have been produced....the Boardgame market is primarily American, and we've had a very jingoistic attitude toward American participation in WW2. Hence the (perhaps) 100+ games on the topic.
There are plenty of subjects that never will be covered because of the lack of commercial potential. Virtually all of WW2 on the Asian mainland 1937 till 1945 is untouched. Plus not many American or European designers are fluent in Japanese and Mandarin, the two primary languages of memoirs of that period.
what a fascinating campaign that was. Perhaps my single favorite campaign of the war. I'll second that especially a good operational level game with air, land and sea all covered.I'd like to see a good game on the Norway invasion in 1940. Brits, French and German.