MichalS
Member
Hi all,
while playing Wintergewitter through VASL with Juan Santacruz we had a problematic situation with a hedge. On one of the hexsides the hedge depiction did not go all the way to the vertex. While measuring for LOS, one of my tanks was just about in view by a T34, about to conduct DFF. This has led to a discussion.
My interpretation is that the vertex is always considered to be part of the wall/hedge, even if the depiction does not go all the way. This is how I believe the example in B9.1 is to be read: "An attack ... is affected by the hedge hexside ... even though the hedge depiction does not actually extend to the vertex." Also note B9.1: "except for obvious breaks in the depiction" (and see also B9.42). That would mean that functionally there is no difference between LOS and TEM (hold on, I'll explain).
Juan's interpretation is along the way of obvious interruptions of walls/hedges, there for movement purposes, usually in the middle of the hexside. He says that (i) there is LOS, if LOS does not cross the depiction, and (ii) if in the same hex, the unit would have TEM even if the LOS does not cross the depiction. (Although note B9.3: "... the wall/hedge TEM can only apply if the target is a non-moving unit". He also insisted this was different from indirect fire, B9.34.) Which would imply different treatment of the "unfinished" hedge/wall depiction for LOS and for TEM purposes.
Thanks in advance for your help!
while playing Wintergewitter through VASL with Juan Santacruz we had a problematic situation with a hedge. On one of the hexsides the hedge depiction did not go all the way to the vertex. While measuring for LOS, one of my tanks was just about in view by a T34, about to conduct DFF. This has led to a discussion.
My interpretation is that the vertex is always considered to be part of the wall/hedge, even if the depiction does not go all the way. This is how I believe the example in B9.1 is to be read: "An attack ... is affected by the hedge hexside ... even though the hedge depiction does not actually extend to the vertex." Also note B9.1: "except for obvious breaks in the depiction" (and see also B9.42). That would mean that functionally there is no difference between LOS and TEM (hold on, I'll explain).
Juan's interpretation is along the way of obvious interruptions of walls/hedges, there for movement purposes, usually in the middle of the hexside. He says that (i) there is LOS, if LOS does not cross the depiction, and (ii) if in the same hex, the unit would have TEM even if the LOS does not cross the depiction. (Although note B9.3: "... the wall/hedge TEM can only apply if the target is a non-moving unit". He also insisted this was different from indirect fire, B9.34.) Which would imply different treatment of the "unfinished" hedge/wall depiction for LOS and for TEM purposes.
Thanks in advance for your help!