Trump - an 'aberration'?

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No offense, but being an MSNBC viewer is the opposite side of Fox, albeit not as horrible by many degrees.
I'm non-MSN - and find my news in places where they don't have a corporate driven agenda. You aught to try it yourself.
You get your news through the filter your ideas, and, again, none of them will ever work because you aren't prepared from them to work.

Your belief that MSNBC is in a conspiricy with the DNC is the exact same belief that 90% of FoxNews people hold. MSNBC is in a conspiricy with Neilsen to make money.

And, if you had any kind of proof that Bernie Sanders was unfairly treated by the DNC, you'd produce it instead of attacking MSNBC. But you don't; all you have is dubya's "feeling for the truthiness" and a persecution complex.
 

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Here's as fair an article as you can get on Sander's chances during 2016. And their hesitant conclusion is spot on--Sander's was a loser in the primary because he wasn't as popular a choice as HRC. She didn't pull a Trump and win by delegates. She won in key Democratic states, while Sanders won in Republican strongholds where HRC was most vilified, amid states that went Trump by 20+ points. Sanders lost the primary, and he would have lost the general, too, as the only states he may have swung were MI and WI, 26 electoral votes that would not have affected the outcome.

I voted for Sanders in the primary. I don't understand why the left cannot accept Sander's defeat for what it was, a popular vote, democratic victory. Feeling like you were wronged despite evidence is too republican.

Could Bernie Sanders have won a primary that wasn't 'rigged'? Um.
 

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WI = Wisconson. WV = West Virginia.

WV voted overwhelming Trump; Sanders could never have swung WV, nor any of the central farm belt where he won much of his support. And thus could not have beaten Trump, just like he could not beat HRC.
 

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Your belief that MSNBC is in a conspiricy with the DNC is the exact same belief that 90% of FoxNews people hold. MSNBC is in a conspiricy with Neilsen to make money.
And, if you had any kind of proof that Bernie Sanders was unfairly treated by the DNC, you'd produce it instead of attacking MSNBC. But you don't; all you have is dubya's "feeling for the truthiness" and a persecution complex.
First, one only need to be a fair-to-middling observer to have noticed the lock-step relationship between the DNC and MSNBC during 2015-16. That you didn't notice the relationship is really your own problem which I don't have the time to address.

Second, there indeed is proof of Sanders being 'unfairly treated by the DNC' - as Donna Brazile (former interim chair of the Democratic National Committee) confessed.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774
What are your thoughts on that story?

Or this one?
https://www.npr.org/2017/11/03/561976645/clinton-campaign-had-additional-signed-agreement-with-dnc-in-2015
 
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First, one only need to be a fair-to-middling observer to have noticed the lock-step relationship between the DNC and MSNBC during 2015-16. That you didn't notice the relationship is really your own problem which I don't have the time to address.

Second, there indeed is proof of Sanders being 'unfairly treated by the DNC' - as Donna Brazile (former interim chair of the Democratic National Committee) confessed.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774
What are your thoughts on that story?

Or this one?
https://www.npr.org/2017/11/03/561976645/clinton-campaign-had-additional-signed-agreement-with-dnc-in-2015
All of that is meaningless and opinion.
Does the RNC roll out the red carpet for Rand Paul? No, they give him support just like the DNC gave Sander's support.
Did Bernie pay 8.5 M to bail out the DNC? NO but HRC did.
If your friend gave you $1000. and the 2 weeks later he needed help, and another friend also needed help on the same day. Who are you going to make sure you help? It is a very simple answer.
Sander's lost because Sander's lost. Plain and simple.
 

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First, one only need to be a fair-to-middling observer to have noticed the lock-step relationship between the DNC and MSNBC during 2015-16.
You are the one focused on MSNBC. I never mentioned them. I've said elsewhere that I get my news mostly from NewsHour, then newspapers (mostly NYT). You are focused on MSNBC. Why, I don't know and don't care.
What are your thoughts on that story?
As above; it didn't affect the democratic outcome of the primary, so why harp on it?

Why do you think HRC would have been a worse president than Trump? You obviously favor Trump over HRC, so why?
 

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Yeah, why I don't regard Biden as anything but another sex offender:

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/02/joe-biden-accusations-defense-1250893

https://www.thedailybeast.com/even-if-its-not-sexual-joe-bidens-creepy-touching-crosses-the-line

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2019/04/02/joe-biden-alyssa-milano-twitter-amy-lappos/3339594002/

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/joe-biden-jokes-inappropriate-touching-162456065.html




Biden is running for POTUS and says that Trump is an 'aberration' for our times......

I see an aberration for sure, in someone running for POTUS.....

No thanks, no sex predators for President. The guy deserves a chemical castration and life in solitary confinement, not the Oval Office
 

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At least Biden is a gender equality grabber. I'm not a fan of him, reminds me too much of Hillary. Still, even a mouldy sack of flour would be better than Spanky.
 

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At least Biden is a gender equality grabber. I'm not a fan of him, reminds me too much of Hillary. Still, even a mouldy sack of flour would be better than Spanky.
At least Spanky confines his fondling to those over the age of 18. and freely admits it - locker room boys being locker room boys, I recall is how he said it.

Biden prefers preying on children. What he deserves is a court of law and a VERY long prison sentence. They got a "special place" for child molesters like that Dem perv in the hearts and minds of the convicts waiting for his arrival.

Didn't like Clinton- a confessed rapist getting away with it. Don't like Biden, a child molester getting away with it.

But I do agree, its actually a bit humourous, we are the only country in the world with an oompa-loompa for a President.

I bet Willie wonka will likely want his oompa-loompa back in 2020. just not sure its a good idea to be throwing the baby on the fire with the bath water. (or babies, in Biden's case).
 
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