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Ray Woloszyn

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Not speaking from the perspective of a TD, but if the cdr doesn't have an impact on the play at the time (e.g. ROF), I normally let an erroneous two cdr DR go as the DR for the given action. However, having said as much, it is VERY seldom that this occurs especially in a tournament setting and if so it's usually late into the evening and often time the player calls off the roll prior to the end of the roll which is also normally pretty good with me. I am fairly competitive in my approach to a game but certainly not anal retentive when it comes to many DRs [EXC: a single die being rolled outside the dice tower/dice cup or being dropped consecutively with a pause between die drops constitutes and an entire reroll for both (all) dice dropped at the same time].
I agree with that approach and it occurs at the times you noted. I personally hate doing it myself but only once was there ever an "attempt" to get me to re-roll the result.
 

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[EXC: a single die being rolled outside the dice tower/dice cup or being dropped consecutively with a pause between die drops constitutes and an entire reroll for both (all) dice dropped at the same time].
Agreed. On a different note, once at a tourney, my opponent made a final CCPh-final DR to decide the game. I was looking at the board when he did so, heard him exclaim he had gotten it, and looked up to see that he had.....along with 5 or 6 other dice in the base of the tower tray. He had considered the game lost, and had put all of his dice into the base of the tray except for the ones he had most recently been rolling. When I convinced him that he might as well roll and see, he just grabbed his in-use pair and threw them down the tower to land among 5-6 other dice. I asked that he re-roll without all of the cluttering dice in the well, and he admirably agreed. He was not happy when the second 'final DR' was not as successful as the first one had been, but I feel his grumbling was more aimed at himself for being so careless as to commit to the initial roll with all of the other dice already in there. The bizarre aspect to it was that he initially felt it should stand, but when I called him on it, he readily conceded the issue. Nice guy, good solid player, just not sure what he was thinking.
 

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Even simpler ... ignore such a silly "rule" and just play the fucking game.

Would I be tossed out of the tournament if I point-blank refused to let anyone else's filthy, diseased hands touch my dice?

At any tournament ... anyone who makes disparaging comments about the perceived fairness of my dice will be ignored on a first offence, snorted at derisively on a second offense, and on a third will be expected to prove it or shut up about it. And no, you don't get to try and prove it while our game is ongoing. ("So ... exactly how many thousands of my dice rolls have you directly observed and recorded?") Shut up and play!
Open format guys. If someone was to produce a blue print for a tournament what would you LOVE to see and what would you/do you despise ?

Just post whatever you see fit.

Looking like running my first tournament later this year. I have some ideas which are wonderful in my head. Wondering what runs through other people's heads to ??

i like tournaments that are more mellow than regimented. TD's who are welcoming, helpful, and accommodating not self-important petty tyrants

interesting scenario choices that are not too overly complex and can be completed by average players in the time allotted

venue that has accommodations at a reasonable rate. food options nearby helpful

tournaments, to me, should be a fun celebration of the game we love. an opportunity to share in some good ASL camaraderie

for some, especially new people, a tourney can seem unappealing or intimidating due to perceived competitive focus of the word 'tournament.' i did not dare to attend one for years but i was finally convinced to go and it turns out that ASL people are generally pretty great and tourneys are good fun with bad experiences few and far between

good luck
 

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Only the easily triggered, ain't you :)
I hope my new Battleschool dice can pick cotton.
 
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There will be no rules on dice at this tournament. I don't think this has ever featured on the UK scene. If I was feeling particularly evil I'd insist the the dice from the original game are used (most still have them, nerds that we are) as the rules seem to explicitly suggest that they are the dice that should be used. But no, none of that, use whatever dice you like. I prefer four sided dice in my games.

And on the issue of food, the tournament venue is already sorted, the wonderful Headlands Hotel in Blackpool which is run, slightly ironically by a German chap called Charles Ruppert who runs the finest bed and breakfast in the land in my experience with the most wonderful food menu,

The only thought I've had is whether, unlike other tourneys, that we take this around the country year on year to different towns and cities. A sort of 'British Open'. But, the venue is so good, and ticks so many boxes, that I think this unlikely.
Are you on some sort of retainer with Charles!!
 

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I really wonder if some of the people posting here actually go to tournaments?

I always have a great time at ASL tournaments and consider it a fantastic blessing in my life that I found this hobby and the ridiculous and amazing group of people in it.

I plan to be at ASLOK and Albany this year - two very different tournaments, but both a ton of fun.

Sometimes I play an opponent who rolls a red and a black die and then tells me for him black is white. I politely ask if he also own a white die, otherwise I will lend him one. So basically I seem to have the skill set to overcome some of these minor issues.
 

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I really wonder if some of the people posting here actually go to tournaments?
You should know as you met and played some of the people posting here at tournaments. But maybe you didn't notice because you were so absorbed in the game. :D

von Marwitz
 

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You should know as you met and played some of the people posting here at tournaments. But maybe you didn't notice because you were so absorbed in the game. :D

von Marwitz
You are the man who self-rallied and leader created a Russian brokie on the just about last Turn of Transsylvania 6-5000 and almost ran all the way back to the VC area I had cleared.....but gunned down at range from a level 2 hill I believe.

You are right.....not all my memories are that clear !
 

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Hey, that's Persi Diaconis talking in these videos!

He's certainly one who knows something about fair dice (he's a specialist in probability theory, and a pretty good one), but he also happens to have worked as a stage magician in the past - so if there's someone who knows about fair dice and is likely to know how to unfairly roll fair dice, my bet is on him :)

(I believe I once read one of his papers about coin tossing - and how to toss a coin so that it will fall the way you want it to)

I know there are a lot of people who feel very strongly about their dice, but really, the best way to fight against biased dice would be to require both players to use the same pair of dice. Not going to happen, I know.
 

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I really wonder if some of the people posting here actually go to tournaments?

I always have a great time at ASL tournaments and consider it a fantastic blessing in my life that I found this hobby and the ridiculous and amazing group of people in it.

I plan to be at ASLOK and Albany this year - two very different tournaments, but both a ton of fun.

Sometimes I play an opponent who rolls a red and a black die and then tells me for him black is white. I politely ask if he also own a white die, otherwise I will lend him one. So basically I seem to have the skill set to overcome some of these minor issues.
Best part of the hobby by a mile.

At Blackpool a couple of weeks back....chilling with a dozen guys and talking nonsense about WW2 and other things....occasionally disagreeing....not a single dice roll but still an amazing time.
 

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It seems that the only idea about being diced is about one's opponent's dice.
I have been diced by my own dice - precision or not - and have seen other players being diced by their own dice very often.

The question is not about the dice.
It is about doubt, fear and suspicion.
With the corollary that it is about taking a game much too seriously, at the cost of healthy relationships.

Being able to cope with bad luck is perhaps the domain where ASL offers the more realism.
The obsession to control the situation must diminish in favour of a more philosophical, detached way of managing the development of events.

I am also quite sure that getting DRM and other rule interactions wrong (who gets them always right?) has much more weight than the dice on the outcome of a game.
 

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I am also quite sure that getting DRM and other rule interactions wrong (who gets them always right?) has much more weight than the dice on the outcome of a game.
You have a point.

My squaddies get diced, rolled, and modified every time they step into the open.
 

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My ideal tourney is the one where i don't have to meet some of the people on this thread.
The people on this thread are digital self-images, with severe distortions built in since they are not actually playing ASL when they write the messages.

The real life folks behind these lines are much nicer and fun to play against.
 
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