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Really. They should know they are on thin ice. It's lazy or stupid or deliberate to advertise a "metal box" vs. a "mostly metal box". End of the world? Not a chance. Typical BFC? Yep.There is a point where the distinction between malice, complacency and incompetence becomes irrelevant to the person on the receiving end.
Really. They should know they are on thin ice. It's lazy or stupid or deliberate to advertise a "metal box" vs. a "mostly metal box". End of the world? Not a chance. Typical BFC? Yep.
Wow. 3, huh? That's the kind of statement that, when other people make it, you dismiss out of hand.It could be debated until the cows come home (even though they're not modeled in the game) but I think the ice is a lot thicker than you think it is. At least that is what I am seeing when I look around the 3 spots where I see CM discussed.
Perhaps I should have expanded my thoughts. I mention that I only visit 3 sites that would discuss it not to point out my lock tight position. I mentioned them to point out I was getting my impressions from a smallish pool. Althoough are large part of that pool and why I feel the ice is fairly thick is from BFCs site. Part of the thin ice theory is that old time CM players had been chased away and soured so much on BFC that they have a lot of fence mending to do. Cruising through the sites I mention that seems to be a position held here. There are even a couple of threads on the BFC forum about the return of old timers. Add to it people I wouldn't imagine doing a thing until they had touched the demo preordering. There are only a couple of guys here, as far as I can tell, that woulnt buy the game or play the demo based on BFC being on thin ice with them. So by all accounts, that I have seen, the number of people who give a hoot if Steve was mean to somebody 4 years ago and it is affecting their decisions seems to be very smaal. Again, conbined with all the old memebrship dates the ice doesn't look too thin. It may not be thick enough for a snow road but.....********.
It seems like you diminish the value of this site by both underestimating the number of participants - by orders of magnitude - or even attempting to quantify what should be a qualitative scale of judgement in the first place. Though admittedly I have done similar analyses of the CMBN and CMSF sites and forum stats, but not to comment on the value of the site. I would not write off the gamesquad forum as "just a dozen people" or, frankly, consider it unimportant. A community is what one makes of it. All the sites are part of a tapestry.I think it also points to the serious lack of discussion going on...outside BFC.
Here it is the same 12 or so people.
I took a peek at a Few Good Men after someone mentioned at BFC that POS had reviewed the game there. I couldn't find the review but I did find some spirited discussion. I guess if I wanted to dismiss the site as "just a dozen or so people" I could, but I have no idea how many people lurk there - i.e. read the site regularly without posting, or only post infrequently. I'm not sure it matters much. As I said above, the community is more than just the number of people showing themselves on the sites you happen to know about.Wargamer has maybe 6 pages of a dozen different people. There is a little discussion at ACG, TheBlitz, a couple other CM1 ladder sites. But I have yet to see any significant discssion yet. And there is very little blog and press coverage.
This in contrast to CMSF and even the Marine module.
Maybe, but why pour rock salt on the ice, while holding a blowtorch to it?It could be debated until the cows come home (even though they're not modeled in the game) but I think the ice is a lot thicker than you think it is. At least that is what I am seeing when I look around the 3 spots where I see CM discussed.