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Unfortunately that is from the simplistic ‘Our tanks are better’n dem Ruskies because we have better gun depression’ Cold War pap. There are precious few places where that actually works. If you do the trigonometry you will find that there is a dead zone right before each of those hull down locations. If the reverse hill slope is 7° and the gun depression is –10° that is a net –3° depression. At –3° there is 190m of dead zone per 10 meter in height rise. Sometimes at close range the tank in the dead zone has the advantage to the hulldown tank because it is able to fire up but the hulldown tank can't fire down.
 

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Unfortunately that is from the simplistic ‘Our tanks are better’n dem Ruskies because we have better gun depression’ Cold War pap. There are precious few places where that actually works. If you do the trigonometry you will find that there is a dead zone right before each of those hull down locations. If the reverse hill slope is 7° and the gun depression is –10° that is a net –3° depression. At –3° there is 190m of dead zone per 10 meter in height rise. Sometimes at close range the tank in the dead zone has the advantage to the hulldown tank because it is able to fire up but the hulldown tank can't fire down.
I never said there weren't dead zones. I never said that shooting down the opposite slope is the point.
 

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Not sure if this belongs here, but I guess it belongs somewhere...

This is not correct. Spotting is Action Spot to Action Spot, LOS/LOF is from point of fire to point of contact (a target or area). This means an ATG in Action Spot A might be 100% unable to spot something in Action Spot B. In that case nobody in the gun crew will ever spot and therefore moving the gun is the only option. As it should be. You should also know this ahead of time because the Target Command shows this information.

In the case that one guy in the ATG crew can spot something, but the Gunner can not, that is more situationally dependent. It could be that the target has not quite revealed itself in front of the gun, or it could be that the gunner is aimed in the wrong direction (at the moment), or any number of situations which are not permanent.

Steve
 

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How much spotting can an action spot spot if you can't spot from an action spot spot?
 
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