nicky_longbranch
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They are pretty rare and useless, so unless someone has a fetish for rare MG armed tanks, it wouldn't be included. There are many vehicles of all armies not included in the modules. These could easily be made available by SSR for a certain scenario if anyone wanted to use them.I do not see how these beauties did not make it in to Beyond Valor, they are nothing like the wimpy little IA or IB. I did see them in Broken Ground's German Army but there is no chapter H and its not "AH/MMP Canon" so..... I do not know.
Great Response, What do you think an F would be in games terms and how many troops could it carry, a HS? The book article says 8 went to the 1st Panzer Division in Russia. Also that EW 141 shot a round with a tear gas capsule to force out occupants. I guess it wasn't really effective against anything but the most lightly armored of targets. Cool idea, though.As far as I know no Pz 1C or 1F went to 1SS. The Pz 1F were used in the USSR and Yugoslavia, a 1F is/was on display in Belgrade.
As for the Pz 1C's EW 141, it was not a cannon. Originally intended to be a full auto MG firing the 7.92x94mm round from the Panzerbüchse 38 & 39 ATR, in full automatic mode it wore out the barrel far too quickly. It was made semi-automatic as a result. The Pz IC then would rate as armed with ATR [1] 1 FP, cmg 3 FP (1MT). So less FP than a Pz IA/B and less penetration than a Pz II, but slightly better armour of 3/2.
I made a mistake about saying SS, confused 1SS with !st.Great Response, What do you think an F would be in games terms and how many troops could it carry, a HS? The book article says 8 went to the 1st Panzer Division in Russia.
Indeed, the SS had no tank divisions until well after the invasion of the Soviet Union.I made a mistake about saying SS, confused 1SS with !st.
It would seem that if the Pzkw If were ever to appear within the ASL system, its size would probably place this vehicle within the 'Tankette' category (i.e. the Russian T-70). As it stands now, the rules (D6.2) prohibit tankettes from transporting passengers. The 'no riders on tankettes' rule is a direct contradiction of photographic evidence with regards to the T-70.What do you think an F would be in games terms and how many troops could it carry, a HS?
it weighs 21 tons, What tankette do you know is that big. It is definitely a light tank, it may even be considered medium (by Italian standards). It states all of the details right in the article, it had 80mm of Armor, tankette? no, not even close. LOLIt would seem that if the Pzkw If were ever to appear within the ASL system, its size would probably place this vehicle within the 'Tankette' category (i.e. the Russian T-70). As it stands now, the rules (D6.2) prohibit tankettes from transporting passengers. The 'no riders on tankettes' rule is a direct contradiction of photographic evidence with regards to the T-70.
Looks like it weighs twice what the Lynx weighed - while being slower and less well armed. The If was only combat trialled per your notes, while a couple of platoons of the Ic deployed to Normandy. Did they see action? Wikipedia suggests yes, and if so, there would be a strong rationale for inclusion in counter form at some point.it weighs 21 tons, What tankette do you know is that big. It is definitely a light tank, it may even be considered medium (by Italian standards). It states all of the details right in the article, it had 80mm of Armor, tankette? no, not even close. LOL