viridomaros
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Does anyone has this?
I'd rather use an existing TOAW map if it does exist.
I'd rather use an existing TOAW map if it does exist.
The May 1940 Campaign Scenario design
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nemo
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Re: 1940 Map of France + Benelux 2,5 km/hex
You'd have to draw The Netherlands though and adapt it to a 1940 setting (a couple of canals and railways to add among other things).
I have part of it - sort of: a 2,5 km per hex map for Northern France and Belgium, from south-east of Abbeville all the way to Liège and Eindhoven up north. Check the Cow version of The Race to the Sea 1914 over at Rugged Defence (the TOAW III one has a smaller map).
You'd have to draw The Netherlands though and adapt it to a 1940 setting (a couple of canals and railways to add among other things).
viridomaros
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Re: 1940 Map of France + Benelux 2,5 km/hex
Is there a way to copy cut your map into a bigger one that i'll complete after ?
i don't see the canal linking Charleroi to Brussels on your map though it was built before 1914. Too small to be present on the map?
Anyway it wouldn't change anything to the scenario just asking.
Is there a way to copy cut your map into a bigger one that i'll complete after ?
i don't see the canal linking Charleroi to Brussels on your map though it was built before 1914. Too small to be present on the map?
Anyway it wouldn't change anything to the scenario just asking.
nemo
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Re: 1940 Map of France + Benelux 2,5 km/hex
aperbag:
I'll check my maps again to see whether it warrants a revision of the scenario.
Yeah: load the map in the editor, and then use the Edit>Map Boundaries>Increase Margin commands (top, bottom, left, right) to enlarge it where needed.
No, I just overlooked it, thanks for the heads-up
aperbag:I'll check my maps again to see whether it warrants a revision of the scenario.
viridomaros
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Re: 1940 Map of France + Benelux 2,5 km/hex
It has always been on my to do list, though like a lot things it hasn't materialized yet. Anyone who's willing to help me on this is welcome.
It has always been on my to do list, though like a lot things it hasn't materialized yet. Anyone who's willing to help me on this is welcome.
nemo
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Re: 1940 Map of France + Benelux 2,5 km/hex
I may dig-up a collection of French GHQ situation maps from the time; I remember seeing them somewhere on the shelves of my library.
I may dig-up a collection of French GHQ situation maps from the time; I remember seeing them somewhere on the shelves of my library.
jlbetin
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Re: 1940 Map of France + Benelux 2,5 km/hex
Indecent proposal
we may work together ? Marc + Pierre + Jean-Luc
And we can create a design thread here about it ???
Damn stupid idea or an Interesting one ?????
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Indecent proposal
we may work together ? Marc + Pierre + Jean-Luc
And we can create a design thread here about it ???
Damn stupid idea or an Interesting one ?????
Der WanderWhatIfBredaOptionWasNotSet
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nemo
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Re: 1940 Map of France + Benelux 2,5 km/hex
I can come up with some measure of archival material and/or references and a hefty load of semi-informed comments but won't be able to actually do anything design-wise. Work, PBEM commitments to honour and a scenario I need to finish are great impediments.
I can come up with some measure of archival material and/or references and a hefty load of semi-informed comments
but won't be able to actually do anything design-wise. Work, PBEM commitments to honour and a scenario I need to finish are great impediments.viridomaros
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Re: 1940 Map of France + Benelux 2,5 km/hex
working on the map i think i'm going to completely redraw it not that yours isn't good enough but TOAW is having problems when i want to enlrage the map on several sides.
working on the map i think i'm going to completely redraw it not that yours isn't good enough but TOAW is having problems when i want to enlrage the map on several sides.
viridomaros
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Re: 1940 Map of France + Benelux 2,5 km/hex
unfortunately it is impossible to make a map at 2,5 km/hex for france + benelux, i'll go with 5km/hex that will be huge enough in fact.
unfortunately it is impossible to make a map at 2,5 km/hex for france + benelux, i'll go with 5km/hex that will be huge enough in fact.
jlbetin
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Re: 1940 Map of France + Benelux 2,5 km/hex
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In the last "Histoire de Guerre Blindés et Materiel" there are a lot of good articles about the mai 1940 period and about the Belgium neutrality policy
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nemo
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Re: 1940 Map of France + Benelux 2,5 km/hex
From Groningen to Basel there are approximately 630 km, i.e. 252 hexes at 2.5 km per hex; and from Stuttgart to Calais there are less than 600 km in straight line (240 hexes). It wouldn't be impossible strictly speaking, but that'd make for quite a huge map and a difficultly manageable one at that.
jlbetin
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Re: 1940 Map of France + Benelux 2,5 km/hex
Sedan La Ferté area on eastern part up to Liège,
North limited by Liège Bruxelle Dunkerque
West a straight line passing west of Abbeville
South limited by Reims Amiens
More or less 300 large by 200 (at maximum) it would gives 120 by 80 hexes
the scale is important especialy in the early stage of Sedan battle with La Fontaine ride on the 13 and De Flavigny missed counter attack at Stonne
there are important "what if" events there and a 2,5 km scale is the maximum one to model correctly these events.
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On my side I was thinking on a map with
Sedan La Ferté area on eastern part up to Liège,
North limited by Liège Bruxelle Dunkerque
West a straight line passing west of Abbeville
South limited by Reims Amiens
More or less 300 large by 200 (at maximum) it would gives 120 by 80 hexes
the scale is important especialy in the early stage of Sedan battle with La Fontaine ride on the 13 and De Flavigny missed counter attack at Stonne
there are important "what if" events there and a 2,5 km scale is the maximum one to model correctly these events.
Der WanderBillote'sRideAtStonne
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nemo
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Re: 1940 Map of France + Benelux 2,5 km/hex
Check the map I've mentioned in my first answer to Pierre, it just fits your needs, size and location wise - with all the usual caveats :smoke:
jlbetin
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Re: 1940 Map of France + Benelux 2,5 km/hex
If Pierre and Marc agree I would like to rename this thread as "May 1940 Campaign"
For those abble to read French have a look here http://www.atf40.fr
And this one in French and English
http://france1940.free.fr/
and this one too
http://enpointe.chez-alice.fr/index.html
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If Pierre and Marc agree I would like to rename this thread as "May 1940 Campaign"
For those abble to read French have a look here http://www.atf40.fr
And this one in French and English
http://france1940.free.fr/
and this one too
http://enpointe.chez-alice.fr/index.html
Der WanderEZtSiDeGaulleWasHeard
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nemo
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Re: 1940 Map of France + Benelux 2,5 km/hex
No problem at all here.
Vois avec Pierre, c'est lui qui a commencé
No problem at all here.
viridomaros
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Re: 1940 Map of France + Benelux 2,5 km/hex
you can change the name of the thread.
AS anyone tried using google earth to create a map yet?
i'm talking about map boundaries + overall landscape.
you can change the name of the thread.
AS anyone tried using google earth to create a map yet?
i'm talking about map boundaries + overall landscape.
nemo
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Re: 1940 Map of France + Benelux 2,5 km/hex
I've tried many times to superpose a scalable hex overlay on Google Earth following the advices found on GE forums, but to no avail, no matter how much effort I put into it. Someone proficient enough with kmz files could probably work it out though.
I've tried many times to superpose a scalable hex overlay on Google Earth following the advices found on GE forums, but to no avail, no matter how much effort I put into it. Someone proficient enough with kmz files could probably work it out though.
viridomaros
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Re: 1940 Map of France + Benelux 2,5 km/hex
wasn't thinking about that though it's a great idea. What i was doing so far was to use the ruler to determine the distances between different points then draw hexes. Of course your method is a better way to do things.
Have you tried to printscreen in googleearth then open it in paintshopro or paint then lay hexagons on it?
wasn't thinking about that though it's a great idea. What i was doing so far was to use the ruler to determine the distances between different points then draw hexes. Of course your method is a better way to do things.
Have you tried to printscreen in googleearth then open it in paintshopro or paint then lay hexagons on it?