Dr Zaius
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Re: The Hobbit Movie (stuff)
Attempting to fly right in the front door, while perhaps possible, would almost certainly expose the intruders to Sauron's immediate wrath. And with the formidable powers at Sauron's disposal, he would be able to mentally dominate or physically assault such a fragile invasion force. Although the movie made it look short, it's a very long distance from the border of Morder to Mount Doom. And once Sauron became aware of the intruders, which would likely be almost immediately, the chances of successfully making it all the way to the mountain would diminish with each passing moment.
No, the only way to get the ring to the mountain would be to sneak it in. Once the ring had arrived atop Mount Doom, Sauron would have only moments to react, which is a key part of the plan. Flying the ring in on wing would likely just deliver it to the dark lord on a silver platter.
There's a whole discussion about that in the book where Gandalf veto's the idea, explaining that Bombadil would never willingly take the ring because he would simply not understand the need. He would likely lose it or forget about it. Furthermore, Gandalf clearly states that, even if Sauron doesn't get the ring back, he doesn't believe they can stand for long against the power of the dark lord. They need to destroy the ring in order to win, otherwise Sauron will simply crush them and find the ring later. And with the whole world under his control he would eventually crush even Bombadil.If he was so omnipotent, why didn't he just destroy the Ring and be done with it?
Entrusting the ring to Bombadil was not an option that would have secured victory.Wikipedia said:At the Council of Elrond, Tom Bombadil is referred to by Galdor as being unable to deal with a siege by Sauron "unless such power is in the earth itself", implying that the character may be a manifestation of Middle-earth's inherent properties. This connection explains Bombadil's seeming obliviousness to the transient concerns of mortals, as evidenced in Gandalf's concern that Tom would not understand the importance of the Ring, and hence lose it, if it were entrusted to him. The idea that Tom's songs are always "stronger", as he proclaims in his rhyme, as well as his title of Master, further suggest Bombadil is the warden or avatar of the nearly invincible aspects of the planet itself.
This is a point that is often brought up, but this course of action doesn't really pass muster for several reasons. First of all, throughout the trilogy Tolkein mentions that Morder is a realm of watchers, spies, and of Evil that does not sleep. Attempting to simply enter Sauron's domain by air would likely be every bit as dangerous as by foot. There are hidden spirits of great power, such as those that guard the entry to the Tower of Minas Ithil, the undead legions that guard the Morgul Vale, and the ever-watchful Nazgul, who can sense the approach of the ring.Michael Dorosh said:Likewise, why didn't the eagles just fly the Ringbearer to the mountain and drop the silly thing in? Instead of just showing up at the end as taxis?
Attempting to fly right in the front door, while perhaps possible, would almost certainly expose the intruders to Sauron's immediate wrath. And with the formidable powers at Sauron's disposal, he would be able to mentally dominate or physically assault such a fragile invasion force. Although the movie made it look short, it's a very long distance from the border of Morder to Mount Doom. And once Sauron became aware of the intruders, which would likely be almost immediately, the chances of successfully making it all the way to the mountain would diminish with each passing moment.
No, the only way to get the ring to the mountain would be to sneak it in. Once the ring had arrived atop Mount Doom, Sauron would have only moments to react, which is a key part of the plan. Flying the ring in on wing would likely just deliver it to the dark lord on a silver platter.
That's almost funny. Hollywood can't even produce a decent B movie these days.Michael Dorosh said:Pardon me for saying it, but I'm all for having Tolkien get a little bit of help from script writers that are better than he was.