Chas Argent
Play to the end.
We'll see.
Starter Kit Boards and their place in ASL
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graydo
Member
Probably because few if any people care about CH anywhere near to the degree they do about MMP, not least because they have the license.Robert Wolkey said:
dave
Loquitor
Senior Member
Question:
What if MMP does something I dislike, (like taking another year to get AoO out) can I criticize them here? Many would take that as a personal attack. How are the boundaries determined?
What if MMP does something I dislike, (like taking another year to get AoO out) can I criticize them here? Many would take that as a personal attack. How are the boundaries determined?
da priest
Member
Silly, just go for it.Loquitor said:
Ya post an ave. of 1-3xs per day bitchin' about it.. then we'll see.., for weeks or months on end, with a stated intent to destroy MMP, then we'll really see..get the picture? Geesh, ACLU types! :laugh:
Loquitor
Senior Member
ACLU type.....OMG Personal attack personal attack....defamation.............. :laugh:da priest said:
Chas Argent
Play to the end.
The "personal attack" reference involves one Forum member verbally assaulting another.
As far as criticism of MMP (or any other company) is concerned, I think it's fairly obvious to most folks here what the difference is between an honest criticism of a company's practices and merely bashing for the sake of bashing.
As far as criticism of MMP (or any other company) is concerned, I think it's fairly obvious to most folks here what the difference is between an honest criticism of a company's practices and merely bashing for the sake of bashing.
Loquitor
Senior Member
Now that is a good policy........
da priest
Member
QED, old boy, QED. :smoke:Loquitor said:
Gunner Scott
Forum Guru
Ah, but what is bashing? Is bashing saying MMP is doing a lousy job of keeping promises or games in print or attacks on their products?
I mean we gotta define bashing so the lawyers among us will sleep better at night knowing that the bashing of MMP has been defined and parameters set.
Scott
I mean we gotta define bashing so the lawyers among us will sleep better at night knowing that the bashing of MMP has been defined and parameters set.
Scott
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D-ploy
Member
OK. that's it
I'm not putting up with this any longer. Most of the bad mood on this forum centers on one person and this person is from now on on my ignore list. I am not willing to hear the same derogatory statements on MMP any longer, because they have not changed in any way since I joined this forum.
From my experience this kind of behaviour has NEVER changed anything for the better and I firmly believe that it NEVER WILL.
Bye Scott
Oliver
I'm not putting up with this any longer. Most of the bad mood on this forum centers on one person and this person is from now on on my ignore list. I am not willing to hear the same derogatory statements on MMP any longer, because they have not changed in any way since I joined this forum.
From my experience this kind of behaviour has NEVER changed anything for the better and I firmly believe that it NEVER WILL.
Bye Scott
Oliver
Chas Argent
Play to the end.
Bashing, Scott, is what you do. Hopefully that is a clear enough reference for everyone.SGT HOLST said:
Pitman
Forum Guru
George writes: "What if MMP does something I dislike, (like taking another year to get AoO out) can I criticize them here? Many would take that as a personal attack. How are the boundaries determined?"
George, there is a serious difference between criticizing MMP, or even being severely critical of MMP, and mounting a long-term, dedicated, full-fledged, no-holds-barred campaign to discredit and disrupt MMP.
George, there is a serious difference between criticizing MMP, or even being severely critical of MMP, and mounting a long-term, dedicated, full-fledged, no-holds-barred campaign to discredit and disrupt MMP.
Hi Evan, Played SP111 at Intensive fire this weekend, Great little crossover scenario, New style boards are good they laminate just as well as my unmounted set of 1-52! and I will probably buy a complete set of the new style ones , once available.
Regards
Olli
Regards
Olli
Sgt. Przybylo
Member
Insert name of game here
Wow, Ive seen this thread...no wait, evolved thread, not the one Don started...a hundred times. Just insert the name of any game/genre and you've got it. Always someone who won't let it go.
On to the topic. IMHO, ASLSK is ASL, for one good reason: It brings folks into the game. For every SK sold, someone gets hooked into ASL, who wouldnt normally have done so due to a giant rulebook that costs a ton, and YOU DONT EVEN HAVE PIECES!
I used to run a games department in a local hobby store, and that was the number one comment made by perspective buyers. I would say "this is the best game out there, bar none, but its tough to learn, and oh-by-the-way, this is just the rulebook." Yes, I did supply the Paratrooper option, and yes, I did explain the learning systems in existence at the time. But the mere intimidation of the rulebook kept many from trying it. I have 3 friends who have bought the SK, who were casual players at best, and now have RBs on order. In addition, if the last few months on VASL are any indication, the SK can only be good for the game.
Old hands at ASL don't have to agree, and many don't, for whatever reason. But from purely a business standpoint, you MUST bring new blood into any venture, in order for it to thrive. Hate them if you must, but Games Workshop has an unwritten business plan: "A game under every 13 year old boys bed". They get it. So the SK has its place in ASL, because if you enjoy it, you will buy the rest, guaranteed.
I wholeheartedly agree with Don the board issue. There must be a plan, because I highly doubt making them available in future module reprints will work. In the meantime, my boards stay locked away in their protection.
Wow, Ive seen this thread...no wait, evolved thread, not the one Don started...a hundred times. Just insert the name of any game/genre and you've got it. Always someone who won't let it go.
On to the topic. IMHO, ASLSK is ASL, for one good reason: It brings folks into the game. For every SK sold, someone gets hooked into ASL, who wouldnt normally have done so due to a giant rulebook that costs a ton, and YOU DONT EVEN HAVE PIECES!
I used to run a games department in a local hobby store, and that was the number one comment made by perspective buyers. I would say "this is the best game out there, bar none, but its tough to learn, and oh-by-the-way, this is just the rulebook." Yes, I did supply the Paratrooper option, and yes, I did explain the learning systems in existence at the time. But the mere intimidation of the rulebook kept many from trying it. I have 3 friends who have bought the SK, who were casual players at best, and now have RBs on order. In addition, if the last few months on VASL are any indication, the SK can only be good for the game.
Old hands at ASL don't have to agree, and many don't, for whatever reason. But from purely a business standpoint, you MUST bring new blood into any venture, in order for it to thrive. Hate them if you must, but Games Workshop has an unwritten business plan: "A game under every 13 year old boys bed". They get it. So the SK has its place in ASL, because if you enjoy it, you will buy the rest, guaranteed.
I wholeheartedly agree with Don the board issue. There must be a plan, because I highly doubt making them available in future module reprints will work. In the meantime, my boards stay locked away in their protection.