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Iceman2232
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die little birdy die.goodbye little birdy.
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die birdy die.
Bob Miller
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Sizemore vs Granderson Young stud CFs in the AL Central. Which one would you rather have? Discuss. I have one of them in a 20 team keeper SIM league so I'm happy except that I'm a WhiteSox fan too so we have to play BOTH of those dudes 17 times a year. Defense counts, not just an artificial 4x4 roto or anything like that.
It seems too that there are several (lots actually) very young highly rated CF prospects in their 1st or 2nd year in the league or AAA. However Granderson and Sizemore are proven young studs. Not just hype and speculation.
Lastly, Yankees are DONE for the next 4-6 years. Boston and TB are stacked for years to come. For his blood pressure's sake, Georgie just better get used to 3rd or worse. Hughes, the next Mark Prior.
It seems too that there are several (lots actually) very young highly rated CF prospects in their 1st or 2nd year in the league or AAA. However Granderson and Sizemore are proven young studs. Not just hype and speculation.
Lastly, Yankees are DONE for the next 4-6 years. Boston and TB are stacked for years to come. For his blood pressure's sake, Georgie just better get used to 3rd or worse. Hughes, the next Mark Prior.
Here ya go Bret. Proof of ARod not being clutch (and it goes back to his days before the Yankees):
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-arod083108&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-arod083108&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
wrongway149
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Well he definately gets the Tribe offense going, like a good leadoff man should.
Some say bat him 3rd due to his emerging power- and although I thought this might be good at one time (trying to save the '08 season), once Martinez and Hafner come back I'd think he will be leadoff for good.
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I read the article and it is funny...it seems like when you need him, A Rod is a no show. Yet his numbers otherwise are...well, fantastic. I wonder what's up with that ie hero or zero?
If memory serves, Bonds in his one post season ie when the Giants played the Angels? The As? In the world Series, Bonds was also a no show for post season batting. He was there in body but not in action....
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'Ol Fezziwig
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Bonds played in a few playoff series with Pittsburgh back in the day; wasn't much of a factor, then, either.
Bret Hildebran
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I'm not a big believer in clutch stats. Basically A-Rod was clutch last year (top 10 in all of baseball) but suddenly he's amazingly unclutch this year? What happened? Madonna put a curse on him? Meh.
Let's see - Grady or Granderson - take Grady. He's 2 years younger (actually 1 year 5 months) which means a lot at that age. A longer track record of success for Grady too w/o the injuries. Granderson's good, but Grady has a much better chance to retire a HOFer.
And the Rays have a dome so their attendance woes may be more due to people wanting to hang out in the sun and humidity at the beach than soak in the glorious AC of the Trop. In general I think the Tampa/St. Pete fans didn't really believe in the team for a long time and just are not in the habit of going to games since the team has always sucked. The game I went to at the Trop was well attended despite KC being in town...
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I have 4 Baseball Cards, not 3 as was mentioned previously. There was a 1990(?) Curt Schilling(Astros) in my APBA Golf Game. Also found was a Fearless Leader piece from the Bullwinkle Game.
I have 4 Baseball Cards, not 3 as was mentioned previously. There was a 1990(?) Curt Schilling(Astros) in my APBA Golf Game. Also found was a Fearless Leader piece from the Bullwinkle Game.
It was the Angels and he did show up: 8-17 4 hr 13 bb
With the Pirates he was always a no show.
How can you say that? Last year was the only year he came thru when it mattered. I didn't know about before his time in NY but just what I saw once he showed up in NY. This backs up what I've been saying all along and it even goes back to cover his entire career. He is not a guy you want up in the clutch.
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Curse? Nah... nasty case of the clap? Mebbe!
Never been to the Trop, but I gotta agree with Jerry Remy when he says the place should be blown up. Playing there has gotta be like playing a game of backyard whiffle ball. "Okay... hit that catwalk and it's a double... hit that one it's a triple, but only for thursday night games..." :devious: There's no SSR's in baseball!
Bret Hildebran
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I've been to 2 games at the Trop and was pleasantly surprised by the experience. Perhaps it's because my expectations were so low based on comments like Remy's, but I found it an OK place to watch a game. The field turf and dirt infield make it seem more like a real park than most domes. It's still a dome, but frankly I certainly appreciated the AC the dome offered vs. the heat and humidity of June/July for the games I was at...Never been to the Trop, but I gotta agree with Jerry Remy when he says the place should be blown up. Playing there has gotta be like playing a game of backyard whiffle ball. "Okay... hit that catwalk and it's a double... hit that one it's a triple, but only for thursday night games..." :devious: There's no SSR's in baseball!
Now the Rays are trying to get something new built, but last I heard that was on hold. This year may help 'em get something done although it's kinda' sad that year 11 of the franchise they're already hoping to switch parks...
Bret Hildebran
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As a Yankee, twice he's in the top half, last year in the top eighth, but the other 3 he's terrible. If it's a real skill, shouldn't there be more consistency than that? I mean we don't see Adam Dunn's Batting Average fluctuate like that, but "clutch" stats do - makes me think it's random flukiness more than inate skill.
Depends on which team you're rooting for! :devious:
Look at the last number. The one labeled "clutch."
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From ESPN. Good company for the sparkplug; no sign <knocking on wood> of a sophmore jinx here...
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Your boy is in company of Tris Speaker AND Ted Williams?
He's a loser, in the Tom Brady I'm taking over for Drew Bledsoe sense of the word loser....
Yeesh, if only I could be a loser like that...
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You are a loser like that... without the success.