It is not military movies.hogdriver said:I have only seen two Russian war movies, and both were excellent!!
Both directed by Sergei Eisenstein:
Ivan the Terrible
And what is so good about this review exactly? Yes “shtrafabat” has hardly anything to do with reality but his (the author of the review) problem is not so much with factual errors as with that some “proavoslavni” is shown as a traitor – it did not even occur to me that his beliefs are an issue here, and with last names of the film producer – the guy is a judofob - frankly this is getting very tiresome.Andrey said:For Oleg Grigoriev
Read this (attention - it is in Russian):
Very funny, I like it.
It is about two first parts of "Shtrafbat" and about "Diversant".
Yes, I recalled.joea said:Well, some of these films would be useful for some university Russian language vidoetechs I suppose. I shall look into ordering some for my university. Are there now or were there any Soviet TV series on the lines of "Band of Brothers?"
I quite agree that original language with foreign subtitles is better. I saw "Das Boot" in both versions, and the English-dubbed version was pathetic. I want to see movies, both entertainment and documentary, that are made in Russia. I have been studying Russia and USSR since the age of 8, and try to be as current as I am able regarding what is happening. I have a pen-pal in Russia, we write and e-mail each other regularly.Oleg Grigoryev said:Give some credit to western public will you. It is not that easily scared. Even more so people who watch foreign movies are well aware of the problem and there are some purists who even prefer to be this way. Das Boot for instance was selling in two versions – German with subtitles and English-dubbed. German version as far as I recall was selling better, and considerably so. I believe it was the same story with “No man’s land”. As for me I has not left Russia and have no plans to do so. My job requires me to stay abroad –often for several months at the time. Nothing is wrong with that. I saw “Night watch” - the book is better or and btw it is “Lord of the rings”. I am sure that many people like it, but still I would be hesitant to speak on behalf of 180 million people.
Until quite recently, how available were Russian movies, books, etc. to Westerners.Andrey said:It is not military movies.
And these movies were made in Stalin's time.
And I wonder for you, Westerners.
I gave you links on BEST Soviet military movies about WWII. (Amvas confirmed it).
Price of most of them is 10-30$. Most part of these movies are translated in English. You can pay this money and will get this movie after 24 Hours.
I do not believe that their ptrice is too high for you. I am Russian, I got 200$ per month and I can to buy movie for 10$ if I very want to see it.
I do not know but I suppose that price of ticket in US cinema is not too less.
It is so easy - pay some money and look BEST Soviet military movies!!!
Do it and discuss what you saw!!!
Hogdriver, you try to know Russians and YOU DIDN'T SEE ANY RUSSIAN MOVIE!!!
Those two movies which you mentioned are VERY old. It looks like all my expression about ALL US movies will be based only on one movie of Charlie Chaplin and one "Gone by the Wind".
You were important person in US Air Forces during Cold War so I do not believe that you have no money.
Buy Russian movies and see it, it is so easy!!!
I guarantee for you that Russian military movies not worse than Western military movies, I saw and Soviet, and US movies.
I didn't speak that they are bad movies. Charlie Chaplin alaso made Great movies but only they are not good for making impression about ALL US movies.hogdriver said:Simply being made in Stalin's time does not automatically make them bad. True, Ivan the Terrible was a propaganda film for Stalin, but Potemkin was made in the 1920s, before Stalin came to power. Also, Eisenstein was given considerable latitude even while making "Ivan", although Stalin did keep the final authority. If one were to condemn everything that came out of the Soviet period, or only out of the Stalinist period, many products of worth would be discarded.
Your views are invalid because you don't know Soviet movies about WWII.hogdriver said:Until quite recently, how available were Russian movies, books, etc. to Westerners.
It seems to me that you feel that my views are invalid until I see what YOU want ME to see. Rather a narrow view on your part.
Yes, it was "Idi i smotri".volpetrolski said:I remember seeing a Russian movie in colour on ARTE about a boy somewhere in Western Russia which village was burnt down and its people burnt alive in the churche by Sondertruppen. I guess that would be the nr. 7 'Idi i Smotri'. Very cruel indeed; something you'll never forget.
Yes, it was a good movie about the soldiers of a penalty battalion. But I didn't find the link on this movie...dmi3 said:I can add to best Russian (Soviet) war movies:
Yes, it was a good movie. But I do not remember its details...- Afganskiy izlom
I didn't like it. It is too biased and non-realistic movie. Its director, Alexander Nevzorov, is a too odious person.- Chistilische (about Chechen war. 1995)