Soviet/Russian military movies

[Uberdave]

If you examine the actual borders in this dispute, you will find that the Soviet version of the Mongolian border was stretched farther into into the Manchuoko plain than was agreed internationally. The Japanese 'invasion' only served to push back the soviet-backed Mongols to the border which they had (according to the Japs).

Im not saying either side was right or wrong, Im just saying that the Japanese viewed the borders differently; thus the conflict.

 

[Andrey]

Originally posted by Uberdave
If you examine the actual borders in this dispute, you will find that the Soviet version of the Mongolian border was stretched farther into into the Manchuoko plain than was agreed internationally. The Japanese 'invasion' only served to push back the soviet-backed Mongols to the border which they had (according to the Japs).

Im not saying either side was right or wrong, Im just saying that the Japanese viewed the borders differently; thus the conflict.

I am not specialist in this question but as I know there was border and there were Mongolian border guard which secured this border. So in reality it was border between Mongolia and China and territory to the East from this border was Mongolian. Japaneses crossed border and captured part of Mongolian territory.

And it was only casus belli.

But it is not important theme for discussion.

 

[Kunikov]

For those interested in a "Band Of Brothers" type series you would like "ShtrafBat" "Penal Battalion" which follows a battalion of GULAG prisoners and other regular soldiers and officers who had been sent to the battalion throughout a few years of the war. It isn't from the beginning to end of the war, but nonetheless an absolutely EXCELLENT and AMAZINGlY well done movie. It just came out a few weeks ago and is 5 DVD's long, each DVD has 2 parts on it the last contains 3, 11 in all. In NY it costs 55 dollars for the set, VHS is 45 dollars.

 

[Andrey]

Originally posted by Kunikov
For those interested in a "Band Of Brothers" type series you would like "ShtrafBat" "Penal Battalion" which follows a battalion of GULAG prisoners and other regular soldiers and officers who had been sent to the battalion throughout a few years of the war. It isn't from the beginning to end of the war, but nonetheless an absolutely EXCELLENT and AMAZINGlY well done movie. It just came out a few weeks ago and is 5 DVD's long, each DVD has 2 parts on it the last contains 3, 11 in all. In NY it costs 55 dollars for the set, VHS is 45 dollars.

I didn't see it.

But if it is US movie I strongly do not recommend you to see it - ;-).

 

[Kunikov]

Originally posted by Andrey
I didn't see it.

But if it is US movie I strongly do not recommend you to see it - ;-).

It's a Russian made movie.

 

[JDS8072]

How would ou rate Das Boot Andrey

 

[Andrey]

Originally posted by Jeremy Scott
How would ou rate Das Boot Andrey

I am Russian and I never was in German U-boat - .

But according all my info about German U-boats in WWII "Das Boot" is very good, true and realistic movie about that period of battle for Atlantic when Allies began to win.

 

[Oleg Grigoryev]

Originally posted by Kunikov
For those interested in a "Band Of Brothers" type series you would like "ShtrafBat" "Penal Battalion" which follows a battalion of GULAG prisoners and other regular soldiers and officers who had been sent to the battalion throughout a few years of the war. It isn't from the beginning to end of the war, but nonetheless an absolutely EXCELLENT and AMAZINGlY well done movie. It just came out a few weeks ago and is 5 DVD's long, each DVD has 2 parts on it the last contains 3, 11 in all. In NY it costs 55 dollars for the set, VHS is 45 dollars.

Too bad it has so many factual mistakes... For ones there were only one or two penal battalion per-front. They were composed not of GULAG inmates but of officers sentenced by tribunals to various jail-times for various misdeeds. The battalions itself was reminiscent in its TOE to the regular army regiments. And it was commanded by regular army officers and not by convicts. If anybody has a knowledge of Russian, here is memories written by CO of such a penal batallion:http://www.rkka.ru/memory/pylcyn/main.htm - " Penal Strike or how Officer's Penal Battalion went all the way to Berlin". Actions fought by PBs also differed considerably from widely accepted "NKVD MG behind you" theory. For instance 8th independent PB, attached to the 3rd Army under Gorbatov, on february19 1944 inflitrated German rerar areas in the vicinity of Rogachev and conducted 5 day raid (offically recognasance in force) disruptimg German suply lines. Needless to say that there was no blocking detachemnet supervisng that. Btw there was even Penal Fighter regiment (under Soviet ace Fedorov they flew La-5 and gave rather good account of themselves).

 

[Oleg Grigoryev]

P.s...

One of my favorite WW II movies, which for whatever reason, is not all well too known even in CSI is Otriad, which I guess is “the troop” in English. Prisoner of the mountains is another good movie although it is probably more anti-war than war movie.

 

[Andrey]

One of my favorite WW II movies, which for whatever reason, is not all well too known even in CSI is Otriad, which I guess is “the troop” in English..

It is #29 in my list in first page.

Prisoner of the mountains is another good movie although it is probably more anti-war than war movie.

Do you mean "Kavkazskiy plennik"?

 

[Oleg Grigoryev]

It is #29 in my list in first page.



Do you mean "Kavkazskiy plennik"?

 

[Andrey]

What is it?

 

[Oleg Grigoryev]

What is it?

why, it is a movie poster Seriously though I believe that indeed the Russian name of this flick is a Kavkazskiy Plennik, movie is loosely based on Tolstoy novel. Two major characters paled by duo of Menshikov and Bodrov.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00008ZZ9M/qid=1094744884/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-9825332-4061704?v=glance&s=dvd

 

[Andrey]

why, it is a movie poster Seriously though I believe that indeed the Russian name of this flick is a Kavkazskiy Plennik, movie is loosely based on Tolstoy novel. Two major characters paled by duo of Menshikov and Bodrov.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00008ZZ9M/qid=1094744884/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-9825332-4061704?v=glance&s=dvd

Yes, it is him.

But...

1. I do not recall sich picture in movie.

2. You had to use Russian name of this movie also.

 

[Oleg Grigoryev]

Yes, it is him.

But...

1. I do not recall sich picture in movie.

2. You had to use Russian name of this movie also.

I was under impression that the initial idea behind the thread was to enlighten our esteemed western audience on the matter of Russian war movies. If somebody from the US audience would want to see it , it would be far easier for then to locate the movie by the English title.

 

[Lance Williams]

For those interested in a "Band Of Brothers" type series you would like "ShtrafBat" "Penal Battalion" which follows a battalion of GULAG prisoners and other regular soldiers and officers who had been sent to the battalion throughout a few years of the war. It isn't from the beginning to end of the war, but nonetheless an absolutely EXCELLENT and AMAZINGlY well done movie. It just came out a few weeks ago and is 5 DVD's long, each DVD has 2 parts on it the last contains 3, 11 in all. In NY it costs 55 dollars for the set, VHS is 45 dollars.

Is this dubbed to English or does it have subtitles?

 

[Andrey]

Is this dubbed to English or does it have subtitles?

I am not sure that it is good movie so I do not advice you to spend money right now, buy better other, more old movies...

 

[Trigger Happy]

Hi Andrey!

Do you know where I can find those movies? (the first 10)

By now, I found 7."Come and See", 10."At Dawns It's Quiet Here..."

I look particularly for the russian long version of 8."Osvobozhdeniye",
as well as 1."Oni srazhalis za rodinu", 3."Goryachij sneg", 5."Batalyony prosyat ognya" ?

I knew of a website that sold it, but no longer remember the URL...

anyway, thx a lot

 

[Andrey]

Hi Andrey!

Do you know where I can find those movies? (the first 10)

By now, I found 7."Come and See", 10."At Dawns It's Quiet Here..."

I look particularly for the russian long version of 8."Osvobozhdeniye",
as well as 1."Oni srazhalis za rodinu", 3."Goryachij sneg", 5."Batalyony prosyat ognya" ?

I knew of a website that sold it, but no longer remember the URL...

anyway, thx a lot

Look some first pages, I gave link for EVERY movie and also some sources were shown some later.

For example, here is US Internet-shop which provide delivery of movie in US territory for 24 hours after payment.

http://www.russianbeat.com/v_tree.cfm?TYPE=%C2%EE%E5%ED%ED%FB%E5

 

[Trigger Happy]

Thx Andrey


OK so I've found a site where they sell Освобождение (8."Osvobozhdeniye") for 40 USD for 5 videocassettes.
http://www.russianbuy.com/product_info.php?aid=32&cPath=1001_102&item=2189

the others are available in vhs format through the russianbeat site:

1.Они сражались за Родину
http://www.russianbeat.com/v_tree.cfm?TYPE=%C2%EE%E5%ED%ED%FB%E5&TITLEIDCLICKED=1413
2.Живые и мертвые
http://www.russianbeat.com/v_tree.cfm?TYPE=%C2%EE%E5%ED%ED%FB%E5&TITLEIDCLICKED=393
3.Горячий снег
http://www.russianbeat.com/v_tree.cfm?TYPE=%C2%EE%E5%ED%ED%FB%E5&TITLEIDCLICKED=1103

4.Батальоны просят огня
http://www.russianbuy.com/product_info.php?item=2294




Also, my pal at gorbushka-canada (www.alldvd.ca) has sent me an e-mail :

*Oni srazhalis za rodinu (1975)*
WAS NOT RELEASED ON DVD YET (date of future release uknown)

*Zhivye i myortvye (1963)*
AVAILABLE IN TORONTO (SHIP in 24 HOURS)

*Goryachij sneg (1972)*
AVAILABLE IN TORONTO (SHIP in 24 HOURS)

*Na vojne, kak na vojne (1968)*
WAS NOT RELEASED ON DVD YET (date of future release uknown)

*"Batalyony prosyat ognya" (1985) (mini)*
WAS NOT RELEASED ON DVD YET (will be released in 2005)

*Dom, v kotorom ya zhivu (1957)*
WAS NOT RELEASED ON DVD YET (date of future release uknown)

*Idi i smotri (1985)*
AVAILABLE IN MOSCOW (SHIP within 7 DAYS)

*"Osvobozhdeniye" (1970) (mini)*
WAS NOT RELEASED ON DVD YET (date of future release uknown)

*Ofitsery (1971)*
AVAILABLE IN TORONTO (SHIP in 24 HOURS)

*A zori zdes tikhiye (1972)*
AVAILABLE IN TORONTO (SHIP in 24 HOURS)

So that's it for the dvd versions.

BTW I highly recommend this shop for anyone in North America looking for russian dvds. Fast shipping, excellent prices!