Pitman
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What happens if a sniper (both types) hits a sledge? CAN it target a sledge?
Snipers and Sledges
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Starting with D12.5v2 SLEDGE which states "...A sledge is the equivalent of a wagon in all respects except for its higher T# and cs#...".
This takes us to D12.1v2 VEHICLE CLASS which states "...Horse-Drawn transport (hereafter referred to as a Wagon) is considered vehicular in nature except that it expends MF rather than MP..."
This takes us to D12.3v2 TARGET STATUS which states "A wagon is an unarmored vehicle target and is treated as such when attacked..."
Which takes us to D5.1v2 INHERENT CREW which states "... All unarmed vehicles are manned only by an Inherent Driver who never leaves the vehicle and is never treated as a crew...."
Which takes us to A14.22v2 NON-TARGETS which states "All units are eligible Sniper targets except AFV with no Vulnerable PRC, units in subterranean [EXC: cave; G11.8] or Interior-Building Locations, prisoners, or hidden/friendly/Aerial units are ineligible Sniper targets. Enemy PRC are Vulnerable to Sniper attack if they are CE and/or occupy a Partially Armored AFV or unarmored vehicle. An unarmored vehicle with no PRC (14.33) can be considered an ineligible target at the Option of the Sniper player."
The text "wrecks, parachutes, gliders, horses," was removed from the ASLRBv2, which was in the ASLRBv1. Although "horses" are not wagons/sledges.
Which finally takes us to A14.33v2 which states "An unarmored vehicle and its PRC cannot be attacked by the same Sniper dr. A Sniper attack vs an unarmored vehicle itself can only immobilize it, and only if the Sniper dr were a "1". There is no further effect vs an already-immobilized unarmored vehicle if it is immobilized again."
Based on the above references I would say that a Sniper can target a Sledge, although during the Alternate Target selection process the Sniper owner can consider it to be an ineligible target. If the Sniper was a "1" then it would immobilize it, if it was a "2" then there would be no effect.
Now you didn't state if the Sledge had any Passengers, if it did I believe you would use Random Selection to determine if the passengers or the Sledge were the target. In which case a "2" could pin the passengers.
But A14.2v2 states "...Should the target Location be occupied by > one eligible (14.22) target, use Random Selection to determine the target(s) in that Location [EXC: prior to Random Selection, the Sniper may choose one of the following (if present in that Location) as its target: the enemy Sniper counter; a Vulnerable Inherent Crew; or an unarmored vehicle]...."
Which would let you select the Sledge as your target, if you had a "1" and wanted to immoblize it.
This takes us to D12.1v2 VEHICLE CLASS which states "...Horse-Drawn transport (hereafter referred to as a Wagon) is considered vehicular in nature except that it expends MF rather than MP..."
This takes us to D12.3v2 TARGET STATUS which states "A wagon is an unarmored vehicle target and is treated as such when attacked..."
Which takes us to D5.1v2 INHERENT CREW which states "... All unarmed vehicles are manned only by an Inherent Driver who never leaves the vehicle and is never treated as a crew...."
Which takes us to A14.22v2 NON-TARGETS which states "All units are eligible Sniper targets except AFV with no Vulnerable PRC, units in subterranean [EXC: cave; G11.8] or Interior-Building Locations, prisoners, or hidden/friendly/Aerial units are ineligible Sniper targets. Enemy PRC are Vulnerable to Sniper attack if they are CE and/or occupy a Partially Armored AFV or unarmored vehicle. An unarmored vehicle with no PRC (14.33) can be considered an ineligible target at the Option of the Sniper player."
The text "wrecks, parachutes, gliders, horses," was removed from the ASLRBv2, which was in the ASLRBv1. Although "horses" are not wagons/sledges.
Which finally takes us to A14.33v2 which states "An unarmored vehicle and its PRC cannot be attacked by the same Sniper dr. A Sniper attack vs an unarmored vehicle itself can only immobilize it, and only if the Sniper dr were a "1". There is no further effect vs an already-immobilized unarmored vehicle if it is immobilized again."
Based on the above references I would say that a Sniper can target a Sledge, although during the Alternate Target selection process the Sniper owner can consider it to be an ineligible target. If the Sniper was a "1" then it would immobilize it, if it was a "2" then there would be no effect.
Now you didn't state if the Sledge had any Passengers, if it did I believe you would use Random Selection to determine if the passengers or the Sledge were the target. In which case a "2" could pin the passengers.
But A14.2v2 states "...Should the target Location be occupied by > one eligible (14.22) target, use Random Selection to determine the target(s) in that Location [EXC: prior to Random Selection, the Sniper may choose one of the following (if present in that Location) as its target: the enemy Sniper counter; a Vulnerable Inherent Crew; or an unarmored vehicle]...."
Which would let you select the Sledge as your target, if you had a "1" and wanted to immoblize it.
Pitman
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that was how i had played it