Just actually fully realising, that there is truely a "rolegaming" sub forum on the premises, and not just a spot where an occasional roleplaying thread winds up.
Anyway, I am clearly a wargamer, even though some days I wonder if I am something else, and just look a great deal like a wargamer.
I am also a rolegamer, although I occasionally can go months or years with no rolegaming. Not by choice though, groups occasionally evaporate.
The question on my mind this morning though, is, are wargamers and rolegamers, more or less the same sort of person, even if on occasion there seems to be two distinct types of person?
I have noticed, that most wargamers like to play rolegames.
I have also noticed, getting a rolegamer to play a wargame, is usually not very hard.
That wargamers occasionally don't rolegame, and rolegamers occasionally have no wargaming experience, how much of that is just that they were never given the chance to try?
Rolegamers have a disgust for what is called a "rules lawyer"
Wargamers though, likely would balk at the idea of purchasing a 4' high stack of rolegaming "guides" as being too obsessed with detail "options".
Notice something comically similar there?
I've been recently able to get back into some decent rolegaming.
"Decent rolegaming" is defined by me as a group that truely will spend the effort to meet on the planned day. Will actually spend the effort to make a "good PC". Has a group with at least one female player (we are blessed with two, wives can be a handy asset
). And one aspect that matters, but is not always open, has members that don't require permission from a parent to go to the game hehe.
We are currently playing the D&D3.5 design, with a group that has a small fortune in the D&D3 minis as well. We are running a game based on a 1st edition module, that was editted to D&D3.5 specs. All things considered, it's been a refreshing option for late saturday nights (8-1ish) in a well outfitted room (means decent table, and comfortable seating).
I think over all, I could get some of the guys to sit down and play a wargame if I picked the right title. Likely would have to be something one sitting oriented though. Axis n Allies, Up Front, something multi player more or less though. And I doubt I would need to molly coddle them into how to actually play a wargame for the most part.
I've watched these guys roll up their Player Characters though, and they gladly wade through a stack of manuals, that collectively are easily as much detail as an ASL experience. These people are not concerned that they might actually have to read some considerable amount of print to get the right slant on their paper person. And they can usually tell you the benefit of concentrating on a style of combat, and what race is best suited for that line of thinking and what feats will max out its performance.
That's the same sort of behaviour you get from a wargaming grognard.
It makes you wonder, if you are in a dry spell for a wargame/wargamer partner, should you spend some time browsing the local rolegaming scene for potential cross over candidates?
Anyway, I am clearly a wargamer, even though some days I wonder if I am something else, and just look a great deal like a wargamer.
I am also a rolegamer, although I occasionally can go months or years with no rolegaming. Not by choice though, groups occasionally evaporate.
The question on my mind this morning though, is, are wargamers and rolegamers, more or less the same sort of person, even if on occasion there seems to be two distinct types of person?
I have noticed, that most wargamers like to play rolegames.
I have also noticed, getting a rolegamer to play a wargame, is usually not very hard.
That wargamers occasionally don't rolegame, and rolegamers occasionally have no wargaming experience, how much of that is just that they were never given the chance to try?
Rolegamers have a disgust for what is called a "rules lawyer"
Wargamers though, likely would balk at the idea of purchasing a 4' high stack of rolegaming "guides" as being too obsessed with detail "options".
Notice something comically similar there?
I've been recently able to get back into some decent rolegaming.
"Decent rolegaming" is defined by me as a group that truely will spend the effort to meet on the planned day. Will actually spend the effort to make a "good PC". Has a group with at least one female player (we are blessed with two, wives can be a handy asset
We are currently playing the D&D3.5 design, with a group that has a small fortune in the D&D3 minis as well. We are running a game based on a 1st edition module, that was editted to D&D3.5 specs. All things considered, it's been a refreshing option for late saturday nights (8-1ish) in a well outfitted room (means decent table, and comfortable seating).
I think over all, I could get some of the guys to sit down and play a wargame if I picked the right title. Likely would have to be something one sitting oriented though. Axis n Allies, Up Front, something multi player more or less though. And I doubt I would need to molly coddle them into how to actually play a wargame for the most part.
I've watched these guys roll up their Player Characters though, and they gladly wade through a stack of manuals, that collectively are easily as much detail as an ASL experience. These people are not concerned that they might actually have to read some considerable amount of print to get the right slant on their paper person. And they can usually tell you the benefit of concentrating on a style of combat, and what race is best suited for that line of thinking and what feats will max out its performance.
That's the same sort of behaviour you get from a wargaming grognard.
It makes you wonder, if you are in a dry spell for a wargame/wargamer partner, should you spend some time browsing the local rolegaming scene for potential cross over candidates?