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If my opponent sets up off-board, can he see wire fortifications that are set up in OG right in front of him?

I am asking if I need to reveal them before he enters?

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If my opponent sets up off-board, can he see wire fortifications that are set up in OG right in front of him?

I am asking if I need to reveal them before he enters?

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There is no LOS from offboard [A2.51]. Per the concealment loss/gain chart, fortifications are not revealed if there is no LOS unless a unit therein loses concealment or protective TEM is claimed.

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No LOS from off board?

Edit: What JR said.

The ability to set up wire like that would seem to be a scenario design issue?
 

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The ability to set up wire like that would seem to be a scenario design issue?
Perhaps. It could also be a design feature if the attacker was allowed the option to enter either in the enemy setup area or not. Do you take the chance? Might be a nice twist. Still, could be a design flaw.

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Perhaps. It could also be a design feature if the attacker was allowed the option to enter either in the enemy setup area or not. Do you take the chance? Might be a nice twist. Still, could be a design flaw.

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Possible I suppose.....
 

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It’s in the Death to Fascism pack (forget the name but I remember the forces involved) I like this scenario and the Dutch should put a mmg and the 20L in the building on that hilltop.
 
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The wire in EE16 could be annoying, if the Dutch in FF16 needs to move or rout away, and the IJA guys manage to move into FF17.
 
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DTF-3 True Grit.
I use the wire to screen the *75 guns and make a kill zone , great scenario like the rest in the pack and worthy of replay. I like the wire in GG 11 but don’t understand the others because they should be in EE12 and EE13.?
 
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