Replacement pages and the pocket ASLRB

[Philippe D.]

Agreed, but the pASLRB suffers from the inherent weakness of paper books: it is more difficult, and more costly, to distribute in updated form. The best MMP can do about this is change the version of the pASLRB they sell from now on.

 

[william.stoppel]

Just like when the initial version didn’t have chapter J included. I didn’t like buying another copy, but I did. First world problems indeed.

 

[Alessandro D.]

Another one for the pASLRB replacement pages.. To be honest I thought they were already included in the module, the regular RB is out of print since years therefore every new player has only this one (that want a paper copy of course).
Sorry, but I don't like to buy the same thing again with the updates, in fact I made my choice about wich rulebook format to use and I would like to receive the same customer support than the other two formats

 

[Gordon]

Do people really expect a publisher to provide a 2nd/3rd edition copy of every book they publish to every customer who bought a 1st edition? I can see, MAYBE, MMP providing updated pages for a nominal fee (possibly) for people to do with what they will. It might be useful for those who've rebound their original pASLRBs and who I think would be in the minority. Given that a change to page #X could have ripple effects through the rest of the rule book I'm not sure how that would even be possible.

 

[cifdale]

No plans to issue pocket-sized replacement pages.
As you say, wouldn’t help most people.
I imagine you could shrink copies of the replacement pages yourself.

We will sell pASLRBs with replacement pages before long.

Excellent news Perry! I am ready and waiting to purchase one.

 

[PTY]

No plans to issue pocket-sized replacement pages.
As you say, wouldn’t help most people.
I imagine you could shrink copies of the replacement pages yourself.

We will sell pASLRBs with replacement pages before long.

I will probably get the pocket book soon, though I wonder if the upcoming Polish, SCW or 48 war modules will lead to the need for updates to that. And how soon we may see those.

 

[Sparafucil3]

Do people really expect a publisher to provide a 2nd/3rd edition copy of every book they publish to every customer who bought a 1st edition? I can see, MAYBE, MMP providing updated pages for a nominal fee (possibly) for people to do with what they will. It might be useful for those who've rebound their original pASLRBs and who I think would be in the minority. Given that a change to page #X could have ripple effects through the rest of the rule book I'm not sure how that would even be possible.

Each chapter is it's own entity. You might have to pay attention to how you number the pages if you add some. Put another way, you do it just like you do the binder book. It's all the same issue. Of course, the pASLRB was bound so the consumer would have to unbind the book and re-bind it with new pages. As I said though, perhaps I should have thought about this in advance given the fixed binding of the book.

It didn't hurt to ask though. -- jim

 

[Maurizizio]

Since I have the eASLRB I don’t use my pASLRB. No issue with power at tournament and no worry about where it is (I have very high impression of the ASL community member). But yes, it is not cheap. However, when you start using the “search” function and the zoom one, you don’t go back to the paper product (exc: Chapter H booklet). My humble opinion

 

[von Marwitz]

I think that the price of the pASLRB is fair.

Most of us are spending lots of $$ on Journals, WO Bounus Packs, 3rd editions of Core Modules, HASLs, not even mentioning TPP offerings.

The eASLRB offered by MMP is a very good deal: Buy once, pay once, no subscriptions. And MMP does provide regular updates as has been proven over the last years.

If the eASLRB is not an option, then I believe that spending the money for a new version of a pASLRB every 3 years or so is reasonable and acceptable. This is even more true, since the pASLRB has proven more practical than I originally anticipated. If handling paper rules of ASL, then nowadays it is mostly the pASLRB versions.

von Marwitz

 

[pensatl1962]

Each chapter is it's own entity. You might have to pay attention to how you number the pages if you add some. Put another way, you do it just like you do the binder book. It's all the same issue. Of course, the pASLRB was bound so the consumer would have to unbind the book and re-bind it with new pages. As I said though, perhaps I should have thought about this in advance given the fixed binding of the book.

It didn't hurt to ask though. -- jim

I wonder if an option would be MMP offering a pASLRB that is not already bound (just loose leaf - and we can go get it spiral bound or book bound or whatever). If so, when a rules change occurs, maybe we could just purchase the pertinent chapter (only) instead of the whole enchilada, and then swap in that chapter?

 

[Sparafucil3]

I wonder if an option would be MMP offering a pASLRB that is not already bound (just loose leaf - and we can go get it spiral bound or book bound or whatever). If so, when a rules change occurs, maybe we could just purchase the pertinent chapter (only) instead of the whole enchilada, and then swap in that chapter?

I don't know. I am not MMP and I am not in a position to tell them how to do business. Maybe they could? Who knows. -- jim

 

[Trainspotter]

If so, when a rules change occurs, maybe we could just purchase the pertinent chapter (only) instead of the whole enchilada, and then swap in that chapter?

That's the way they do here in germany with specialized literature like laws, medical or engineering. You can buy an abo or rebuy the chapter as needed.

At least it would be a shrinked Version of the Rulebook without the binder...

 

[von Marwitz]

That's the way they do here in germany with specialized literature like laws, medical or engineering. You can buy an abo or rebuy the chapter as needed.

Note, though, that in the example given, the price for roughly three paper updates of approximately 1cm of pages have the same price as the whole damn block bought new with binder. Plus you have the work of manually exchanging old vs. new pages. Plus in the binder model, (as with the old ASLRB), old pages may eventually tear.

If dealing professionally with law, you simply have to be up to date to the very latest.
I honestly do not see comparable impact for ASL.

If one wants to be up to date at all times, then the eASLRB is the answer.
Updates to the pASLRB every three years or so are absolutely sufficient.

Personally, I just hate all sorts of subscription business models. I would not ever spend a cent on such a model with regard to any sort of ASLRB. Besides that, one of the main reasons why the pASLRB is so handy is because it is bound and not loose-leaf.

von Marwitz

 

[Alessandro D.]

It's rather simple:

out of print regular size RB (years) got replacements pages
still in print and only available option pocket RB got no one.

That's all.

 

[Sparafucil3]

It's rather simple:

out of print regular size RB (years) got replacements pages
still in print and only available option pocket RB got no one.

That's all.

Except it isn't. The current version of the pASLRB is an exact copy on paper of the eASLRB, page for page. I have verified this. If a person wants, they can indeed just print the new pages (A51 - A63, B41 - B46) when the eASLRB is updated. These prints can then be used as replacement pages for your pASLRB if you're willing to rebind it. As someone who prefers spiral bound to the current end page binding, I have already spiral bound my rule book (cost me about 15€). So there is a path forward for my pASLRB if I can sort out the proper size of the printed page. -- jim

 

[klasmalmstrom]

Given the different versions of the pASLRB having been printed, I don't think it is easy to issue replacement pages for it. Those pages might not "fit" into some versions of the pASLRB.

 

[Sparafucil3]

Given the different versions of the pASLRB having been printed, I don't think it is easy to issue replacement pages for it. Those pages might not "fit" into some versions of the pASLRB.

You must have the latest version of the pASRLB for sure. When in doubt, wait for the next version of the pASRLB. MMP's website currently shows to the pASLRB as "Out of Stock". Since it is print on demand, it should be printed again in the relatively near future. -- jim

Disclaimer: I do not work for MMP and cannot speak on MMP's behalf. I am speculating here.

 

[David Reinking]

For those who already have TotR, did it include some Chapter H information on the 5/8” counters in Axis Minor colors?

 

[Sparafucil3]

For those who already have TotR, did it include some Chapter H information on the 5/8” counters in Axis Minor colors?

None that I see. -- jim

 

[Larry]

Not covered:

T-34 M40 (3)
T-34 M41 (4)
T-34 M43 (4)
PzKpfw VG (2)
SPW 251/16 (2)
PSW 234/4 (2)
StuH 42 (3)

Covered:

L3/35(i) (3) covered by note 32.
JgdPz 38 (2) covered by note 41.

The historical acquisition is missing but we are familiar with the vehicles and their use.