Don't agree. When an opponent gets 75% DM's on you and you get 10% that is a problem thatLuck isn't really a big factor in ASL, so there's not much to remove.
A much worse problem in ASL is people frequently, and constantly, bitching about dice, when they should instead be considering what mistakes they are making, which likely is the real reason of them losing their games.
Then there is that 237 that gets a 1,1 in CC against 3 Sturm MMC, 2 turns from the end of the game. Didn't do anything wrong just got diced out./QUOTE]
You chalk that up to that group of men that held out way past any expectations. It happens in real life and should happen in a game.
I complain about the dicebot constantly. The dice do even out somewhat even if you (or I) do not think it does. Nothing beats FtF but this is the best that we have.
Exactly to the point!Played about 100 VASL games,
The dice chart at the end of these games has shown the mean to be about 7.0 and a normal spread, as expected.
Now this doesn't reflect that the timing of the good/bad rolls may favor one side in a game.
Since the dicebot evidence is plainly visible in a graph, only luddites can claim otherwise.
No, that's a CONJECTURE. A HYPOTHESIS. In order to make it a FACT, you have to PROVE it, or show that it's been PROVEN.Real dice are never as bad as VASL. That's a FACT..
Indeed. And this luck or bad luck it determined by the timing of good or bad dice rolls much more than by the difference of outcomes between "normal" dice, precision dice, and dicebots.Just accept that about 1/5 games of competent play is discided by luck entirely.
No, that's a CONJECTURE. A HYPOTHESIS. In order to make it a FACT, you have to PROVE it, or show that it's been PROVEN.
In this case, there's MATH. But you made it EASY when you used the word NEVER. Because that means NOT EVER. LITERALLY, NOT EVER.
So all one needs to do is show ONE CASE where real dice were as bad as VASL and what you said becomes NOT A FACT.
That would be REALLY EASY TO DO.
Now, if all you want to do is point a finger and talk loud, GO RIGHT AHEAD. AND USE BOLD TEXT TO BE EVEN LOUDER. BUT I SUGGEST YOU STAY AWAY FROM LOGIC BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL CALL YOU ON IT.
Dude, was he referring to you?All right, pal. I'll bite.
If you are offended by my capital letters for the purpose of stressing the point, my apologies. I should have used bold or italic instead of capitals as the latter can be seen as 'shouting'.
To begin with, please point out to me, where I used the word 'never' in my post #50.
Here's my attempt at math for you, to explain why the difference of outcomes of 'normal' BV-box dice compared to perfect dice are highly likely to be insignificant compared to other factors such as the timing of a (good or bad) DR and the skill level of the player. Yes, it can happen, but it is highly unlikely. ASL is a game of chances as we all know, so I'd take bets on my point anytime.
You guys are objecting to something I've remedied in post 11. There is a workable solution to both issues. Admittedly, you are trading one set of anomalies for another... If I see two twelves relatively close together, I know that for somewhere around 80% of the deck (roughly the next 80...www.gamesquad.com
As for the VASL dicebot, I have provided the numbers. But again, here you go.
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Again, a DR average of 6.993 for roughly 140,000 rolls does not seem off to me. On average, it equates a deviation from the "perfect" 7 of a bit less than 0.7 die pip per session.
I know that people have managed to manipulate the VASL dice bot. But we are talking about the norm, where this does not happen and where opponents are rigging neither software nor loading dice. You could now claim that in one session the dice bot rolles nothing but snakes and nothing but boxcars in the next, ending up with a nearly perfect 7 in the end. Highly unlikely, not my experience. Up to you to provide evidence to that effect if you wanted to.
You may call my statement 'conjecture' or 'hypothesis' rather than 'fact'.
Still I stand by what I say: The difference of outcomes between normal dice, precision dice, the VASL dicebot and perfect dice is insignificant in consequence compared to the factor of timing of a good or bad roll, the skill level of the players and possibly balance of the scenario.
Arguing, that there might be rare cases in which this not the case is a pretty lame argument for doubting and degrading the general validity of my statement to conjecture and hypothesis. If you shoot a guy straight through the heart, you could call it 'conjecture' and 'hypothesis' that it killed him, arguing that he might just have suffered a deadly stroke before the bullet hit and thus doubt the 'fact' that he was shot dead. But you wouldn't bet on that yourself if you were called on it, right?
It has been hinted to me that Tuomo might have been referring to Oberst Hausser. Upon double-checking, I found out that I have Oberst Hausser on Ignore, so I might have missed Haussers post that could have led to Tuomo's possible reference to him.Dude, was he referring to you?
Indeed. Next FtF game on Friday and of course in November is GRENADIER time (beware of the CAPS...).Hey, never too late. Still got time left in the year for more!