volgaG68
Fighting WWII One DR At A Time
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A couple of rules issues arose and I meant to re-check with the hive as to whether or not we got them right.
1) A building hex is mined with A-P mines (6). The Attacker successfully clears a single TB through them. How much does it now cost to traverse the building hex via the TB? My vote was 4MF (double the normal MF cost), his vote was 2MF. We found the rule quickly enough, but he argued that "the open ground portion is doubled, not the building". I did not think this made any sense as the rule is written, YMMV.
2) A broken unit is in an A-P minefield and must rout due to an ADJ enemy. The exit attack from the mines results in a PTC. He argued that "broken units don't take PTCs", but I disagreed without finding corroboration. I thought if it failed the PTC it would remain in the mine hex, and ADJ to an enemy, and die for FTR. A third party was called in it to settle the issue. I don't recall any specific rule he cited, except that broken units CAN take PTCs during rout/interdiction, and if Pinned must stop their rout. We put the (well versed) third party on the spot, so he didn't have time for full-on rules research. I recall seeing the same situation played before as he described, but that doesn't mean it was done right. Thoughts?
3) My sniper hits a stack of his units. I roll for RS and it hits the one leader present. Strangely, my oppo became fairly upset when I rolled the Wound Severity dr and a '5' came up. He said "I'm supposed to roll that!" I don't recall any rule stating that either side "gets" to do it, just assuming it was a 'friendly/house-y' thing of whoever rolls it, rolls it, no big deal. He honored my WS dr, but fumed for some time afterward. I may have been wrong rules-wise, but I suspicion that if I had rolled a '2', it wouldn't have even been brought up. In previous years, both my opponents and I made WS drs for each other without pause.
Thanks for any rules citations, clarifications, or advice!
1) A building hex is mined with A-P mines (6). The Attacker successfully clears a single TB through them. How much does it now cost to traverse the building hex via the TB? My vote was 4MF (double the normal MF cost), his vote was 2MF. We found the rule quickly enough, but he argued that "the open ground portion is doubled, not the building". I did not think this made any sense as the rule is written, YMMV.
2) A broken unit is in an A-P minefield and must rout due to an ADJ enemy. The exit attack from the mines results in a PTC. He argued that "broken units don't take PTCs", but I disagreed without finding corroboration. I thought if it failed the PTC it would remain in the mine hex, and ADJ to an enemy, and die for FTR. A third party was called in it to settle the issue. I don't recall any specific rule he cited, except that broken units CAN take PTCs during rout/interdiction, and if Pinned must stop their rout. We put the (well versed) third party on the spot, so he didn't have time for full-on rules research. I recall seeing the same situation played before as he described, but that doesn't mean it was done right. Thoughts?
3) My sniper hits a stack of his units. I roll for RS and it hits the one leader present. Strangely, my oppo became fairly upset when I rolled the Wound Severity dr and a '5' came up. He said "I'm supposed to roll that!" I don't recall any rule stating that either side "gets" to do it, just assuming it was a 'friendly/house-y' thing of whoever rolls it, rolls it, no big deal. He honored my WS dr, but fumed for some time afterward. I may have been wrong rules-wise, but I suspicion that if I had rolled a '2', it wouldn't have even been brought up. In previous years, both my opponents and I made WS drs for each other without pause.
Thanks for any rules citations, clarifications, or advice!
