Precision Dice Required in Tournaments

Robin Reeve

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I use precision dice occasionally, just because they are aesthetically nice.
At the level of ASL the potential difference between precision and non precision dice is infinitesimal - but some people need to believe that they don't lose because they are less skilled than their opponent...
 

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I'd like to see people accept normal dice in tournaments. There seems to be a trend to insist in the use of precision dice (at least in Scandinavia this is the case). So far no one has shown me convincing proof that precision dice are superior to normal dice in creating random numbers.
You do you. Having said that, you've spent hundreds of dollars/Euro on a game system and play with 10 cent dice. Seems kind of crazy to me personally. JMO, YMMV. -- jim
 

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Well, the game comes with dice that are perfectly functional; additional, typically much more expensive dice don't expand the game's possibilities at all. At least when I spend money on scenarios and other game components, that increases my options.
 

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I don’t think the issue is about what kind of dice you yourself chose to use (nobody’s business). It’s about insisting on the dice that your opponent has to use at a tournament.

I’d say switch tournaments.
 

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I'd like to see people accept normal dice in tournaments. There seems to be a trend to insist in the use of precision dice (at least in Scandinavia this is the case). So far no one has shown me convincing proof that precision dice are superior to normal dice in creating random numbers.
Even though I use Battleschool dice, which are precision dice, I would refuse to play in any tournament that required precision dice. That's crazy.
 

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I use precision dice and a dice tower to demonstrate to my opponent that I strife to be as fair as possible during play. Statistically, the probability differences between regular dice and precision dice are insignificant but measurable.
 

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I have onky ever had one player request I not use the dice I had, he did not like the decal instead of the pip on the one. No biggie, i just used hiis dice instead.
I cannot imagine a tournament insisting on the use of precision dice. If it did, it woukd also have to insist on the dice being new out of the wrapper as well to ensure they had not been tampered with.

I do have a set of dice that I break out for new opponents. They are balanced but just horrible!

 
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The Albany dice rule is simply this: "If someone does not use precision dice you can ask to share." Therefore, if you don't want to share, bring precision dice. Nobody is forced to buy or use precision dice...
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I use precision dice. And a dice tower. And for one motive: I use dice not tampered, and I don't manipulate the dice (indeed, I just deposit in the dice tower, don't even shake'em). I'm always willful to let my opponent throw my dice. It's not a question of luck: it's demonstrating my opponent that I want a game as neat as I can afford. It's showing your oppnent that you want to play neat: precision dice, dice tower, not shaking, pure fate . If I play at my opponent house, I use his rules: use of the same dice (precision; I sold'em to him, and he broke the shrinkwrap and shake'em) and take the result. If he comes my place, He brings his own dice but use my dice tower, and I use my own precision dice (same as he bought).
 

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The Albany dice rule is simply this: "If someone does not use precision dice you can ask to share." Therefore, if you don't want to share, bring precision dice. Nobody is forced to buy or use precision dice...
Steve
To me, that still seems extreme.
 

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I use precision dice and a dice tower to demonstrate to my opponent that I strife to be as fair as possible during play. Statistically, the probability differences between regular dice and precision dice are insignificant but measurable.
does anyone have said measurements around here?
 

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This may be heresy, but I don't like precision dice, especially when coupled with dice towers that have felt or other sound-absorbing covering. There's not enough tumbling action to satisfy my inherent sense of randomness. Me, I drop the classic dice into a pilsner glass; they tumble and kick around quite gratifyingly before they break my heart.
 

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Then our definitions of "extreme" are not the same...
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'Extreme' would be:

"Only the 12.5mm Nationality Series of dice are usable and the player must use the dice set that represent the nationality played. The dice must be randomized glass, cup or tower with matching nationality symbols. "
 

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I once took a die that looked (by my eyeball) to be unbalanced. I rolled it hundreds of times and recorded the results. I was hoping I could demonstrate that the die was biased. The results were not exactly evenly distributed, but getting exactly evenly distributed results is itself not statistically likely. I could never get the differences I saw to be statistically significant. I gave up.

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Have seen non-precision die crack into two parts, by a Danish player in the Arnhem Tournament. Seen several non-precision where corners have eroded or fallen of (original AH dice). Seen several other dice where the symbol have eroded slightly to vanished. Have seen a die that mostly only rolled 1, 2, 3.
None of these issues have ever happend with my Backgammon Precision Dice, despite being bought 20+ years ago.
 

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If the large Backgammon community require Backgammon Precision Dice at tournaments, all very understandable when looking at the top dollars you can earn.
Pictures of what is required at tournaments [URLunfurl="true"]https://duckduckgo.com/?q=backgammon precision dice&ia=images[/URL]
Simply put, if anyone should call backgammon players 'extreme' , then in all fairness, I believe they would regard ASL players more extreme when investing so much time and effort into a game and then only play with other than Backgammon Precision Dice at Tournaments.
 
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