PF/PSK and Interior Factory Hexes

[MrP]

All

This came up at Heroes at the weekend and a quick ask of the room came up with pretty much a 50:50 split. Can you fire a PF/PSK into an interior Factory hex, ie. one with +1 factory TEM?

Rules refs would be nice

In the end we just diced for it as we couldn't decide and myself and my opponent had differing opinions (for differing reasons!)

Cheers

Ian

 

[Robin Reeve]

I'd say yes.
A factory is a building, and there is no exception cited in C 8.31 rule about factories being treated otherwise than buildings for HEAT HE equivalency vs. infantry (firing against an AFV would cause me even less problems).
Note, alsol, that C13.8 specifies that there is no backblast penalty firing from a factory hex.
Thus PF/PSk are really deadly in a factory!

Usually, if something is not prohibited in the rules, you can do it. :!:

 

[Treadhead]

I'd say no.

C8.31 specifically says that HE Equivalency may only be used versus Infantry/Cavalry "receiving a wall/building/rubble/pillbox TEM".

B23.741 distinguishes between when to apply Factory TEM and when to apply Building TEM for a Factory. There is a clear difference between the two, and the circumstances determine which one to apply.

Factory TEM is not the same as Building TEM. Therefore, HE Equivalency does not -- cannot -- apply.

Regards,
Bruce Bakken

 

[MrP]

Yay! result.

Just like at Heroes, a 50:50 split........

Ian

 

[Robin Reeve]

Hey, Bruce makes me doubt seriously!
But he hasn't me fully converted... :wink:

Only one solution remains : send Perry Cocke your question and we will all be happy to have an "authorized" answer...

 

[Anonymous]

PF in Factory

Gents,

IIRC one of the older fanzines had an article that mentioned the ability to use Heat against a unit in a factory.

However, a Perry Sez maybe within the last year clarified that you cannot.

Chas

 

[Treadhead]

This very forum has a Perry Sez listed for this question in the "Unofficial Perry Sez Collection".

Regards,
Bruce Bakken

 

[SamB]

The Q&A is also listed on my website. http://dicetower.com


C8.31 (March 2003)

Is Factory TEM (B23.741) sufficient building TEM to qualify for a HEAT attack per C8.31?


No.

 

[MrP]

Many thanks for that one guys, we rolled for it and the dice must have known the right answer as they came down on the side of Perry

Cheers

Ian

 

[Robin Reeve]

So, I now am converted! :wink:
I do also believe one cannot fire HEAT against Infantry in a Rooftop location, or is my religion still heretic here?

 

[Victor]

Would it be safe to assume that if HEAT can not be fired into a Factory that a unit in a factory could fire out of the factory without suffering backblast?...hmm actually nothing is safe to assume with ASL :?
Victor

 

[Anonymous]

Cant make a specific rules reference right now, but you can fire SCW from within Factory with no backblast penalty.

Chas