Hi ASL brethrens,
This is a Q from Austria, also known as ASL-Sleazeland, the country were
crews flee their Kingtigers to claim control of some VC toilets!
The issue came from a Newbie and was introduced to me by my gaming-buddy Kurt
(who is also on the list). Hi Kurt!
OK here is it:
A german squad has FF'ed during the enemy MPh--using either 2 PF or 1 PF and
inherent FP. It is now marked First Fired. DFPh comes up and our Newbie
claims that the squad can do an addditional PF shot vs. an adjacent target.
Why? Because A 8.4 says "..units/weapons that are may also fire again, but
as Area fire...blah, blah". C13.31 (first sentence) says: "All good order (or
Berserk) German infantry after September 1943 which can still fire during
their current phase can possibly fire a PF.
OK, Kurt and I searched through the rulebook, I had some offline talks with
ASL grognards, they all thought (as we did), that this shouldn't be allowed,
we failed to find the rules disallowing that. So the Q now goes list.
Let me help a bit: C 2.24 saves the day for other weapons but does nothing
for PFs (because the PF rules explicitly say you can fire one if "the unit is
can still fire" and that is clearly the case as per A8.4).
It is no help to try to circumvent this over usages per phase, as A.15
specifically says that "...units may fire in both without violating the
general rule that no unit can fire in more than one phase per turn ".
So what? As it stands we are proud to have a very promising newbie that has
gone through Viennise ASL School, has incorporated COWTRA and, with
disregards of reality arguments just finds out that the above squad _can_
fire another PF (with case K for Area fire)??
Any takers?
This is a Q from Austria, also known as ASL-Sleazeland, the country were
crews flee their Kingtigers to claim control of some VC toilets!
The issue came from a Newbie and was introduced to me by my gaming-buddy Kurt
(who is also on the list). Hi Kurt!
OK here is it:
A german squad has FF'ed during the enemy MPh--using either 2 PF or 1 PF and
inherent FP. It is now marked First Fired. DFPh comes up and our Newbie
claims that the squad can do an addditional PF shot vs. an adjacent target.
Why? Because A 8.4 says "..units/weapons that are may also fire again, but
as Area fire...blah, blah". C13.31 (first sentence) says: "All good order (or
Berserk) German infantry after September 1943 which can still fire during
their current phase can possibly fire a PF.
OK, Kurt and I searched through the rulebook, I had some offline talks with
ASL grognards, they all thought (as we did), that this shouldn't be allowed,
we failed to find the rules disallowing that. So the Q now goes list.
Let me help a bit: C 2.24 saves the day for other weapons but does nothing
for PFs (because the PF rules explicitly say you can fire one if "the unit is
can still fire" and that is clearly the case as per A8.4).
It is no help to try to circumvent this over usages per phase, as A.15
specifically says that "...units may fire in both without violating the
general rule that no unit can fire in more than one phase per turn ".
So what? As it stands we are proud to have a very promising newbie that has
gone through Viennise ASL School, has incorporated COWTRA and, with
disregards of reality arguments just finds out that the above squad _can_
fire another PF (with case K for Area fire)??
Any takers?