Partisan question
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jrv
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The ones with berets instead of helmets were provided with the Partisan counters. Partisan leaders are not elite and do not have any effect over non-Partisan forces [A25.24], so if there is a mixed force you should use partisan counters for partisan leaders to avoid confusion.
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Alan Hume
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thanks, I'll doublecheck those tomorrwo then
too late in the day to do it now
been stuck on the computer for the last 4-5 hours trying to pin down what units fled to the north with the X-MAS for a scenario I'm working on, got the Black Brigades division pinned down fairly easily but not hte Germans, they're either a volksgrenadier unit or just going to have to be 'remnants of 14th army'
thanks for the help, appreciated
too late in the day to do it now
been stuck on the computer for the last 4-5 hours trying to pin down what units fled to the north with the X-MAS for a scenario I'm working on, got the Black Brigades division pinned down fairly easily but not hte Germans, they're either a volksgrenadier unit or just going to have to be 'remnants of 14th army'
thanks for the help, appreciated
jrv
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To save you some time, you have lost your partisan leader counters.
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jrv
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The cat is the only reason you haven't lost your cat yet.I think the cat had something to do with it, he broke my blu ray player the other night as well
JR
wrongway149
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One of my pet peeves: Players who use the partisan leaders for Russians and vice-versa. Worse than clipped and un-clipped counters together.
No wait, maybe not.
No wait, maybe not.
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Alan, don't forget the no deployment and no fire group SSR's so frequently used for Partisans are just that, SSR's. If you don't put those SSR's in there, they firegroup, deploy, recombine etc, just like everybody else.
xenovin
Elder Member
I just saw a game with old school blue Finn leader with Germans And said the same thing!
Apart from the usual SSR's about deployment and multi hex fire groups, you might consider not penalising Partisans use of DCs (FTs a different matter). Today's headlines are witness to modern guerillas ability with things that go bang. In the opposite direction, requirement to use crews for MMG/HMG (and possibly light mortars) a la the Japanese, is another possibility..
Maybe the unclipped are bringing the clipped to the concentration camp?
I should have qualified my MMG/HMG crew usage requirement SSR as it should only be invoked in historically justified situations. A long established partisan unit that had access to such weapons for some time would not be a suitable candidate for such a SSR, but a small or new unit that had just got some parachuted advisers along with the MMG/HMG might be a good pick for such a SSR.
Don't forget that some partisan forces ended up more like regulars later in the war. Tito's forces became practically a real army by '44 or so and some Soviet partisan groups could be considered similarly trained and robust. Some irregulars had different grades, like the regional and local forces of the Viet Minh/NLF, so you could mix 337 with other units like 447. You might give the 337s the usual SSRs, but not the others, but both would be considered the same 'nationality' rather than the default of Allied. Partisans sometimes get movement boosts by SSR and I would see both types getting such boosts.
Don't forget that some partisan forces ended up more like regulars later in the war. Tito's forces became practically a real army by '44 or so and some Soviet partisan groups could be considered similarly trained and robust. Some irregulars had different grades, like the regional and local forces of the Viet Minh/NLF, so you could mix 337 with other units like 447. You might give the 337s the usual SSRs, but not the others, but both would be considered the same 'nationality' rather than the default of Allied. Partisans sometimes get movement boosts by SSR and I would see both types getting such boosts.
Alan Hume
Elder Member
that's true, sounds like it would work well for something in Italy or suchlike
I heard about Tito's forces right enough (heh, it was probably your good self that I heard it from:nod:
that they were almost a real army
mixing the MMC up and only applying SSR to some of them would work pretty well I think, great idea
I heard about Tito's forces right enough (heh, it was probably your good self that I heard it from:nod:
that they were almost a real army
mixing the MMC up and only applying SSR to some of them would work pretty well I think, great idea
It might have been Mark Pitcavage (Pitman). He apparently done a lot of research on partisan forces in WW2 and has had a partisan project stewing away for quite some years. As with many such ASL things, I have no idea when it might see the light of day, if ever. He hasn't mentioned it for a few years.
witchbottles
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You also see a fair number of SSRs such as in SP 177, where the partisans are NOT penalized for captured MG use by SSR.