Panzer Blitz 2 Art

[Aries]

http://www.multimanpublishing.com/images/panzerblitz2-adver.jpg

Has the latest version of PB2 graphics...

Well that sure looks better than the earlier concepts I saw. Nice over all improvement.

 

[Treadhead]

Ve-e-ery nice, Brian.

Regards,
Bruce Bakken

 

[kdalton]

Okay guys,

One figure or two?

 

[Aries]

I suggest 1 figure, as counter art should be as clear as possible with the least effort possible. And if there is to be no counters depicting "single individuals" then there is no value in depicting multiple images on the counter, when one is as capable as two, but less bussy on the counter over all.

Counters after all, are of limited size, and the more data on them, the harder it is the distinguish other portions of data on the counter.

 

[Dr Zaius]

Yeah, that looks outstanding.

 

[Treadhead]

I prefer two figures. Since each individual soldier is sized smaller than the one-figure version, I find the two-figure versions to be no more distracting or detracting.

Also, the two-figure version seems more "dynamic" to me, more suggestive of a cooperative effort between individuals within the unit.

Regards,
Bruce Bakken

 

[kdalton]

One suggestion was two figures for a full strength, one for reduced strength. Thoughts?

 

[Robin Reeve]

One suggestion was two figures for a full strength, one for reduced strength. Thoughts?

Why not, as you are trying to help playing with very visual marks?
I prefer two figures for full strength, btw.

 

[Double Deuce]

One suggestion was two figures for a full strength, one for reduced strength. Thoughts?

In that case I can see having both the 1 and 2 figures on the counters. I do think the single figure is a little too tall and bleeds into the counter data around it (above and below).

 

[madDdog67]

I prefer 2 figs for full strength, one for half strenghth...makes sense, having played another game where they use counters. :laugh:

 

[GJK]

As mentioned on CSW (where this debate is being paralleled): what about units that have a stacking value of "3"?

 

[Aries]

In that case I can see having both the 1 and 2 figures on the counters. I do think the single figure is a little too tall and bleeds into the counter data around it (above and below).

If you look though, both counter art options do that bleeding into counter data thing. The 2 image format is doing it as well.

You guys have made some good counter opinions, but I still think, as these images represent a great many men, not individuals, or even small groups, multiple images accomplishes only a larger over all image requirement. The single image option could easily be just made slightly smaller.

 

[The Purist]

I would go with the single figure to prevent 'clutter' and use a smaller figure on the reduced size. I'm an old gamer from the 70s so 'chrome' is not what appeals to me,...game play is the thing.

 

[Double Deuce]

If you look though, both counter art options do that bleeding into counter data thing. The 2 image format is doing it as well.

True. Where I meant to focus attention was on the single image counter where it bleeds up into the unit echelon indicator more so than the 2 image one. On the lower end it is better blended/hidden as the "men" are behind the icons and numbers.

 

[Edvard]

Wow! Looks like I arrived late to this little party...

I think that precisely because the infantry counters represent so many men, the old international standard symbols are the way to go, but Keith and Brian will know the market trends, and which way to go to make the game as commercial as possible.

If the general consensus is for human figures, then definitely two-figures does it for me. Not so sure about the side-view of the planes either. The old Panzer Leader FBs were fine the way they were...

I hope the game doesn't get over-complicated though, one reason why when I was young I played a lot more Panzer Leader than Squad Leader is precisely because it was fast and playable, so it made for an exciting game.

 

[Michael Dorosh]

Dredging this up after months if not years, but the hill art is terrible - at 250 metres per hex, a "hill" in PB would not represent Mt. Elbrus or a jagged peak, which is what that artwork looks like. Something less dramatic would be far more appropriate.

 

[Michael Dorosh]

Maybe soften the "folds" in the terrain and make the colour change in the crest lines more pronounced - particularly for those whose colour-vision is not 100%..

 

[MAKing]

One suggestion was two figures for a full strength, one for reduced strength. Thoughts?

I like the 2 figure for full and 1 for reduced as well.