Overrun question and ROF

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A vehicle conducts an overrun and rolls 1,1. It has a MG MA ROF of 1.
It leaves the hex where the attack took place, then moves adjacent to another enemy unit and stops, it does not have enough MPs to overrun the hex.
Can the vehicle make a bounding fire attack vs this other enemy unit using the retained ROF?

We had a look around the rules and could not see a clear answer or any relationship between ROF and overruns since they are MP dependent.
 

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A vehicle conducts an overrun and rolls 1,1. It has a MG MA ROF of 1.
It leaves the hex where the attack took place, then moves adjacent to another enemy unit and stops, it does not have enough MPs to overrun the hex.
Can the vehicle make a bounding fire attack vs this other enemy unit using the retained ROF?

We had a look around the rules and could not see a clear answer or any relationship between ROF and overruns since they are MP dependent.
Marked with a bounding fire counter see 3.3. As not only weapon fired?
 

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See alsoD 7.13 marked with bounding first fire counter. EXC multiple over run.
 

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IIRC, there's a Q&A on this...
I checked the PerrySez 2020 compilation at the time searching for 'overrun' but didn't see anything that related to the situation. I just searched for ROF and found an answer on p84 of 125, which uses OVR in the question rather than overrun.
 

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OVR is a form of Bounding Fire, so all rules apply (unless EXC). It’s just the attack FP that is resolved differently vice a TH/TK roll. So, if you maintained ROF with the MA, then you did and are not marked with a Bounding Fire counter and can shoot the MA again. The only EXC during OVR that I know is you can use the MA again, even if ROF exhausted, to perform another OVR.
 

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D3.3, D3.51, & D7.
An AFV fires its MA as bounding first fire during its MPh (retaining ROF) but does not fire its MG armament. According to Rule
D3.3, the result is that it does not place a bounding fire counter but, per Rule D3.51, it is now prohibited from using its MGs after
moving to a different hex. May the AFV now move to a different hex and conduct an OVR using only its base 4 FP given that
Rule 7.1 only prohibits a vehicle covered by a bounding fire counter from carrying out such an attack as opposed to a vehicle that
has previously fired?
A. No OVR
that's the best I could find.
 

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If you Overrun, you are marked Bounding First Fire. That precludes other fire excepting additional Overruns. Klaus may have something different in his Q&A and if so, it would be interesting to see.
 

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If you Overrun, you are marked Bounding First Fire. That precludes other fire excepting additional Overruns. Klaus may have something different in his Q&A and if so, it would be interesting to see.
I tend to agree as an OVR is not quite the same as Bounding First Fire but is somewhat considered a form of it (D7.1). The rules seem to even go so far as to mention the effects of a Malfunction of Weapons (D7.17) but makes absolutely no mention of being able to maintain ROF for its MA; an absolutely inconceivable omission if it were to be allowed. As you have indicated upon the completion of an OVR the overrunning unit is marked with a Bounding First Fire counter...period!
 
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