"One Thing About..." Concealment

[DaveStory]

This particular topic could probably go on for a long time. It's one of the "big jumps" from SK to full ASL. I think it would be hard to talk about concealment without also touching on HIP, so that should be fair game for this thread as well.

My starting submission is more of a tactic:
I almost always trade in some OB-given 1/2" concealment counters for 5/8" concealment counters (if I have vehicles), since those bigger counters always seem to get more respect/attention.

 

[Jazz]

Once a unit tries to enter a location with concealed units, random selection (not the owner of the concealed units) is used to determine what unit(s) become unconcealed to force the bounce back.

 

[Brian W]

each counter under a concealment counter is part of the random selection process for choosing a sniper target. Thus, a unit with a SW is more likely to get hit (if RS picks the SW, the unit possessing the SW is the target).

 

[JD Sullivan]

Any form of positive TEM prevents the movement incurred ? loss in the Advance Phase. [see definition of Open Ground A10.531]

A ? maker in the LOS of a unit attempting to gain ? status prevents that unit's ? gain.

 

[SamB]

It's easier to lose concealment than to gain it.

 

[SamB]

Dummy stacks will not slow down or intimidate anyone but newbies. :devious:

 

[SamB]

OB given concealment counters must be placed in concealment terrain. (Red terrain on the terrain chart).

 

[Bret Hildebran]

Concealed units don't cause DM allowing concealed units to sneak up on brokies which can't rout away and have their way with them in CC...

Someone had to stop Sam's run!

 

[SamB]

Come on! It's been HOURS!!!

A single 7-0 concealed leader will let you qualify for ambush in Woods / Buildling / Pillbox.

 

[2 Bit Bill]

Come on! It's been HOURS!!!

A single 7-0 concealed leader will let you qualify for ambush in Woods / Buildling / Pillbox.

I believe you already qualify for Ambush in Building/Woods. I bet you meant Ambush DRM. have a rep

Wouldn't a concealed SMC(or any concealed unit, Attacker or Defender) in any terrain allow for the possibility of Ambush?

 

[klasmalmstrom]

I believe you already qualify for Ambush in Building/Woods. I bet you meant Ambush DRM. have a rep

Wouldn't a concealed SMC(or any concealed unit, Attacker or Defender) in any terrain allow for the possibility of Ambush?

Yes. If any involved unit is ? - I believe the terrain doesn't matter.

 

[Psuderman]

Forcing your opponent to decide whether to shoot or remain concealed is one of the most delicious moments in ASL.

 

[Brian W]

A concealed unit automatically loses concealment if a vehicle ends its MPh in bypass in the same location.

 

[Jazz]

A concealed unit automatically loses concealment if a vehicle ends its MPh in bypass in the same location.

Was "it's" movement phase as opposed to "the" movement phase the final outcome of that discussion a while ago?

I kinda lost track of it in the hub-hub....

 

[Bret Hildebran]

Was "it's" movement phase as opposed to "the" movement phase the final outcome of that discussion a while ago?

Yes - it's "it's" MPh. i.e. when the tank is done moving off comes the concealment.

And on the original note - dummy stacks can split apart and grow their own concealment. Can be excellent for sniper bait - stack 5 ? together & then split them apart into 4 single stacks all of which can grow concealment giving you 4 stacks of 2x? for a total of 8 ? counters. That's a 60% increase in your dummy OB for free!

 

[DaveStory]

Concealed units are Known to Observers, if they are in non-concealment terrain and in the Observer's LOS.

 

[Michael R]

related

Your concealed AFV can set up with TCA and CE status recorded, rather than thickening the stack with a CE counter.

 

[Matt Book]

Your concealed AFV can set up with TCA and CE status recorded, rather than thickening the stack with a CE counter.

Can it move out of LOS of KEU's with the sama data recorded or does it have to reveal it when it's moving even though it is out of LOS of a KEU?

 

[Matt Book]

OB given concealment counters must be placed in concealment terrain. (Red terrain on the terrain chart).

Does this apply when your opponent is entering from offboard? If all your units would get concealment placed on them regardless of terrain then wouldn't the same apply to the OB given dummmies?

 

[Bret Hildebran]

Does this apply when your opponent is entering from offboard? If all your units would get concealment placed on them regardless of terrain then wouldn't the same apply to the OB given dummmies?

Yes, it still applies when your opponent enters from off-board. Dummies always have to setup in concealment terrain at start, barring an SSR to the contrary.

And on the original topic...Concealed units will lose concealment when advancing into an enemy tanks hex, if that tank is in OG & it's not night. i.e. an enemy vehicle does not give you +1 TEM to keep concealment with...