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Don I would love to offer you this case of cyber beer in the brand of your choosing for making this forum devoted to ASL the greatest wargame in existence.

Now I gotta get out there and let everyone know, hope you can handle a flood of new members :)
 

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LestheSarge9-1f said:
Don I would love to offer you this case of cyber beer in the brand of your choosing for making this forum devoted to ASL the greatest wargame in existence.


Thanks! This is something that I have been wanting to do for a very long time. There is still nothing that compares to the level of detail that ASL offers at this scale of wargaming. ASL is truly the king. Now that VASL and JASL have arrived on the scene I think there may be a true revival of this great system.

LestheSarge9-1f said:
Now I gotta get out there and let everyone know, hope you can handle a flood of new members :)


Please do. We can always handle new members.

Yeah Baby!!!
 

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Les did you submit a link to this site at MMP, would that be an idea worth pursueing? Also maybe a link on crossroads? :hmmm:
 

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As a matter of fact yes I did, I told them this was shortly to be a haven of pro ASL support and Consimworld sucked as a dynamic outlet of useful timely information.

Brian at MMP thanked me for the email this morning actually.
 

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Thanks for the support guys. We have already had several new members sign up for the ladder and I'll bet they'll be a lot more once we get the word out on the street.

There are a lot of ASL webpages out there, but many of them either don't have much on them, or are not regularly updated. Everyone knows this and it can make it a bit of a challenge to get dedicated gamers to take a new club seriously. I can't blame people for being skeptical, I'm that way myself sometimes. It's up to us to demonstrate that Warfare HQ isn't just another "here today, gone tomorrow" webpage. This club has been firmly established for over two years and has over 1,000 active members. It will take some time, but once people see that Warfare HQ is a serious and stable resource that is run by wargamers for wargamers, they will feel more at home here.

The ASL section is brand new, but to make it a real success we need to have quality content added. Articles, AARs, interviews, and also we need to get scenario and add-on authors to feel comfortable posting their work in our archive section. Let me just take this opportunity to reiterate (for those that don't already know it) the Warfare HQ policy on posting things here. The bottom line is that any work a scenario, map, or mod author contributes to the archive is still 100% the property of the author. Now that's a BIG difference between Warfare HQ and some other places. If an author posts someing in the archive and then wants to remove it at some later date that is the author's decsion. Of course, we hate to see that happen, but there are valid reasons why an author might want something taken down. At any rate, Warfare HQ policy is to fully respect the rights of everyone who contributes to the wargaming community. Our hobby is a small one, and it is important that we all play fair.

I really think this ASL section is going to bloom. Thanks guys, we're off to a running start. :D
 

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LestheSarge9-1f said:
Don I would love to offer you this case of cyber beer in the brand of your choosing for making this forum devoted to ASL the greatest wargame in existence.

Now I gotta get out there and let everyone know, hope you can handle a flood of new members :)
Hmmm--now we got two "forums", plus consim and the ASLML.

the ladder and potential storage for scenarios/AARS etc. seems the only difference from the other "forum".

are we spreading ourselves and MMP too thin on-line?

Just a stray thought..... :bandit:
 

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da priest said:
Hmmm--now we got two "forums", plus consim and the ASLML.

the ladder and potential storage for scenarios/AARS etc. seems the only difference from the other "forum".

are we spreading ourselves and MMP too thin on-line?

Just a stray thought..... :bandit:
Perhaps, perhaps not, I think that Don has a vision for this forum and ladder that will make it a top notch forum. This forum is less than a week old, wait until Don gets it up and running at full speed before you pass judgement on it. Right now I think that there is a need for a one-stop ASL site. This as far as I know is the only one of its kind.
 

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Considering my obvious as sin devotion to ASL, and the simple fact I won't have anything to do with Consimworld's concept of information distribution (hey I don't hate Consimworld, their software merely sucks), they are not worth mention.

I was on the ASL mailing list once. I had a significantly bad experience with several persons on it at that time. Might have changed since, been a few years after all, but the bad taste yet still remains unfortunately.

Warfare HQ is the only source as far as I am concerned apart from directly emailing MMP, and they are good with responding to emails I might add.
 

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I have a slightly different take on this. When Pete and I left the Blitzkrieg Wargaming Club and founded Warfare HQ there were a few folks that said that we might be dividing the online wargaming community a bit too thin. I don't buy that argument as these clubs are non-profit organizations that exist to merely enhance the members' enjoyment of their chosen wargame. At the time there were several major wargaming clubs, each with it's own flavor and focus. After a short while Warfare HQ had a strong membership going and it became clear we weren't taking anything away from other clubs. Our club had a distinctive style and flavor, as did the existing clubs. Since then, other major wargaming pages have come and gone. Some have done very well, some haven't. It's a big community out there and I don't see us as "competing" with anyone.

Someone mentioned my vision of the Warfare HQ ASL section. In a nutshell this site - which is in no way meant to take anything away from other webpages or clubs - has some neat characteristics that can help make it a place that gamers will want to return to. First, Warfare HQ has several other ladders besides ASL. Although it's a small number of other games, we don't see it as diluting the effort being devoted toward ASL here. Rather we see it as helping to expose other wargamers, who may never have heard of ASL or seen it before, to a whole new system. That's always a good thing as most wargamers play at least two different games or have thought about doing so. Second, Warfare HQ is an established club with established character. This webpage isn't going to suddenly disappear or die from lack of updates. We have a whole staff to assist each other and help the general membership. Third, we're a full service club. We have a message forum, scenario archive, articles, interviews, etc. That means we can have a lot of content and that gives members a reason to want to come back.

Right now many of the ASL areas on the main webpage are empty. That's understandable as we just started the section. I'm hoping that all kinds of ASL fans out there will decide to share their articles, AARs, and scenarios with the wargaming community by allowing us to post them on this website. No doubt it will take a little time before the ladder starts filling up and we get some really interesting content, however, I'm certain it is going to be a quality addition to the ASL community. Again, we're not trying to be all things to all people, we're just trying to make this webpage the best we can make it. You're help is crucial in achieving that goal.
 

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Hey Don in the interest of giving input and hoping to inspired new directions, I can say that while Wargamer does a fine job of what they do, competition tends to also force us the excel or get left behind.

So don't fret for a second if your efforts seem counter productive to anothers eh.

With that in mind, I would say one aspect of wargaming that gets only marginal space in a lot of cases, is specific highlighting of board gaming in general.

ASL is clearly a board game, but it is a named board game as well. So this forum is clearly not capable of doing much for board games in general.

A forum here at Warfare HQ dedicated to just board games would not be so bad. I would not want to assume it is absolutely needed, but then again, like I said, one web site is not necessarily the be all and end all either.

So it doesn't have to just stop at Wargamer for instance. They have a good board gaming forum.
But I have noticed before, some people just don't want to extend themselves outside of their primary forum site. So some of the Warfare HQ crowd might welcome their own forum devoted to board game style wargames.
 

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I like the idea of a one stop ASL site, instead of, if you want to discuss ASL you go to one site. If you want to play ASL you go to another site, if you want AAR's yet another etc.. So far this site has everything that I need and could ask for in an ASL site.
 

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To much sub division can indeed get out of hand. The Steel Panthers forums at Matrix Games is a good example. I suppose they all have merit and worth, but out of sight out of mind. I never really look in them much.
 

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LestheSarge9-1 said:
To much sub division can indeed get out of hand. The Steel Panthers forums at Matrix Games is a good example. I suppose they all have merit and worth, but out of sight out of mind. I never really look in them much.
Yeh, but a "newbie central", with all newbie subjects could be good? Right? ;)
 

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The only thing a newbie needs is a genuine friendly greeting eh. One nice post saying hello is worth a dozen lengthy postings entertaining them with dry commentary.

Always greet new people, it ain't their fault we got here first hehe:)
 
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