My apologies

[Scully]

Don and everyone else,

I apologize if I escalated things a little too much in the thread, but you caught something of a raw nerve that I'm usually able to control, and for some reason felt the need to respond tonight.

Take care,
Brian

 

[Prester John]

Don and everyone else,

I apologize if I escalated things a little too much in the thread, but you caught something of a raw nerve that I'm usually able to control, and for some reason felt the need to respond tonight.

Take care,
Brian

And don't forget who has volunteered to stand beside you in this fight, come hell or high water (unless the Labor Party wins the next election).

 

[Scully]

And don't forget who has volunteered to stand beside you in this fight, come hell or high water (unless the Labor Party wins the next election).

I thank Australia, the UK and all our allies everyday. Those that have stuck with us deserve a lot of credit considering the pressure they're facing. Anyway I can vote against the Labour Party too?

Take care,
Brian

 

[Prester John]

And I can vote against the Democrats (vote early and vote often).

And also as an act of revenge against the American bastardisation of the English language, the Australian Labor Party spell it without the "u". I have no idea why.

Remember, the Liberal Party are the good guys.

 

[JAMiAM]

Damn...a bar brawl and I missed it?!?!

Scully...don't sweat it, too much. We've not had a thread moved to the Troll Cave for about 6 months now.

I think that the thing that most everyone forgets when this particular issue spirals out of control is that (most) everyone is looking for some very similar end-state - that of a world not wracked by wide scale terrorist activity. The problem is that there are very divergent paths that are seen as the optimal course in which to take in getting there.

History will be the judge as to whether, or not, we prove to be up to the task, and can chart the proper course of action. Let us all hope that in our anger and blindness born of prejudice, we don't choose poorly and make things irreconcilably worse, before we can make them better.

I can only speak for myself here, but I would hazard a guess that this is the main concern of those who oppose most of the actions of the Bush Administration.

 

[Temujin]

And I can vote against the Democrats (vote early and vote often).

And also as an act of revenge against the American bastardisation of the English language, the Australian Labor Party spell it without the "u". I have no idea why.

Remember, the Liberal Party are the good guys.

I can't remember the reason why its spelt that way, i used to, i can tell ya its nothing to do with American bastardisation of the language.

 

[Martin Schenkel]

And also as an act of revenge against the American bastardisation of the English language, the Australian Labor Party spell it without the "u". I have no idea why.

Isn't it the other way around? The British spell it with the 'u', the Americans without, so aren't they in essence sucumbing to the American bastardization of the english language? Then they would be taking revenge on the British bastardization of the english language.

 

[Prester John]

I can't remember the reason why its spelt that way, i used to, i can tell ya its nothing to do with American bastardisation of the language.

Somebody is taking things far too literally.

 

[Prester John]

Isn't it the other way around? The British spell it with the 'u', the Americans without, so aren't they in essence sucumbing to the American bastardization of the english language? Then they would be taking revenge on the British bastardization of the english language.

If the Americans changed the spelling, and the (US hating) socialists use the American spelling then I suppose poetic justice might be more appropriate terminology.

 

[Temujin]

I just read the thread up there and just thought i'd point out Scully that nearly half the Bali dead were Australian and many other injured, so your empathy with the Bali victims is no greater than PJ's or mine.

Im sure you didnt realise that fact when you mentioned it so no offence taken

 

[Priest]

Don and everyone else,

I apologize if I escalated things a little too much in the thread, but you caught something of a raw nerve that I'm usually able to control, and for some reason felt the need to respond tonight.

Take care,
Brian

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[laszlo.nemedi]

??????

me, too :hmmm: ??? :nuts: (again I missed something...)

 

[Ivan Rapkinov]

Check the "Anti-Americanism sinks to new low" in the LOcked Threads section.

I honestly didn't think it would quite ignite the firestorm it did...

Tem: I work for VRSM International, and we have a lot of dealings with US businesses, hence the night shift.

 

[Tzar]

Don and everyone else,

I apologize if I escalated things a little too much in the thread, but you caught something of a raw nerve that I'm usually able to control, and for some reason felt the need to respond tonight.

Take care,
Brian

It wasn't that bad, although you were obviously getting somewhat worked up over it

But I understood that a close friend of you saw Sept. 11 from very, very close. That explains the emotion related to all this, and it's understandable. But I know you probably also agree that emotions do not replace sound and cold judgement and analysis when deciding upon the correct course of action i.e. terrorism, Iraq and so on.

People who have a harder time understanding how the Iraqi invasion is part of the global fight against terrorism (like me) aren't any less concerned with terrorism, they are just concerned about the long term consequences of this invasion and its fallout: will it really decrease the threat of terrorism, or could it, by fanning the flames of the fanatical, be increasing it instead ? Are we living in a safer world now than before April 9, 2003, when Bagdad fell? I think the question is worth asking and analyzing.

In any case, we saw much more worse threads when Marko used to be here

 

[Priest]

Thanks for the info Ivan, most times you just never know how a thread is going to evolve.

 

[BigDog]

Ivan in response to the locked thread we have plenty of those types here in the US. It has absolutly nothing to do with the Bush administration. There were looney tunes like this running around protesting operation Desert Sheild/Storm. Which if I recall correctly we were invited to participate in along with a whole lot of other people.

I don't know where these peoples deep hatred of the United States stems from. I do know that from what exposure I have to them here and in Europe 87-89 that most are colledge kids are colledge educated but they seem to have no grasp or knowledge of history.

Scully don't sweat it. So you got a little under the collar. We all do at times.

 

[Temujin]

Ivan in response to the locked thread we have plenty of those types here in the US. It has absolutly nothing to do with the Bush administration. There were looney tunes like this running around protesting operation Desert Sheild/Storm. Which if I recall correctly we were invited to participate in along with a whole lot of other people.

I don't know where these peoples deep hatred of the United States stems from. I do know that from what exposure I have to them here and in Europe 87-89 that most are colledge kids are colledge educated but they seem to have no grasp or knowledge of history.

Scully don't sweat it. So you got a little under the collar. We all do at times.

University kids are very idealistic, if they get through uni and nothing changes then i don't think they have learnt much. Wher i go to Uni there is definatley no one trying to support this sort of thing its just the kids, or adults, outlook thats why they are studying because they have an opinion. However the attitude that they dont care about what happens to Iraq as long as America fails is purely degenrate and not very idealistic at all.

I don't support the invasion of Iraq as a toll in anti terrorism however i dont want to see the shit hit the fan (as it has) in the aftermath either. I am a Labor supporter but atm im split as to what is the best method to deal with in Iraq pull out or stay, i don't know. At least I and many others will learn a great deal from what happens now, so that is the only positive i see.

 

[Marko]

It wasn't that bad, although you were obviously getting somewhat worked up over it

But I understood that a close friend of you saw Sept. 11 from very, very close. That explains the emotion related to all this, and it's understandable. But I know you probably also agree that emotions do not replace sound and cold judgement and analysis when deciding upon the correct course of action i.e. terrorism, Iraq and so on.

People who have a harder time understanding how the Iraqi invasion is part of the global fight against terrorism (like me) aren't any less concerned with terrorism, they are just concerned about the long term consequences of this invasion and its fallout: will it really decrease the threat of terrorism, or could it, by fanning the flames of the fanatical, be increasing it instead ? Are we living in a safer world now than before April 9, 2003, when Bagdad fell? I think the question is worth asking and analyzing.

In any case, we saw much more worse threads when Marko used to be here

You mean posts that show the US serviceman is in general no better than his Iraqi counterpart. This is what makes me laugh so much with all this torture stuff, once that uniform is on then every one is exactly the same.

 

[Prester John]

You mean posts that show the US serviceman is in general no better than his Iraqi counterpart. This is what makes me laugh so much with all this torture stuff, once that uniform is on then every one is exactly the same.

Even the Brits? I thought we just found out they were fakes. Or are you getting a little confused again?